{"id":123800,"date":"2024-04-10T08:00:25","date_gmt":"2024-04-10T12:00:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/prowrestling\/?p=123800"},"modified":"2024-04-09T21:10:55","modified_gmt":"2024-04-10T01:10:55","slug":"aew-overpay-wrestlers-wwe-underpay-wrestlers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/prowrestling\/2024\/04\/10\/aew-overpay-wrestlers-wwe-underpay-wrestlers\/","title":{"rendered":"Money Talks: Does AEW Overpay Wrestlers? Does WWE Underpay Wrestlers?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Fans of any sport are experts on their chosen pastime. As fans, we can be armchair quarterbacks, backseat coaches, and managers who knew if you did X it would have resulted in Y. Being from the UK, which is obsessed with football (soccer), I went the other way and chose rugby as my preferred sport. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Yet there is no difference between football and rugby fans in the way they think and talk about what the players, managers, and clubs should do differently.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">When it comes to pay, and discussing the monetary worth of a player, the same rules apply. And there is a disconnect between fans and athletes. Usually, we don\u2019t make what seems like a ridiculous amount of money that they do. Also, they get to live out the \u201cdream\u201d life on and off the pitch. They are lucky. No doubt.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Fans debating a wrestler\u2019s value is not unique or new. Fans do it in every sport. Yet wrestling is different for various physical and business reasons. Like other sports, fans are happy to talk about how overpaid Z wrestlers are.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Recently, with\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">AEW<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u2019s signing of three of the top free agents\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Will Ospreay,<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Kazuchika Okada<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, and\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Mercedes Mon\u00e9<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, a lot of negative discussion centered on how much they are possibly being paid. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Especially, Mercedes who may be the highest-paid woman in wrestling. Some reports suggested $5 million, but\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Dave Meltzer<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0has said it is not that lucrative.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">There are a lot of other reasons why AEW might be an attractive company for wrestlers. I wrote a\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/prowrestling\/2024\/03\/30\/wwe-learn-aew-bidding-war-2024\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">whole article on the topic here.<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0However, the negativity especially revolves around money. The thing in life described as the root of all evil, not everything but damn near everything.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><strong>Limits of Tribalistic Bad Takes\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">There\u2019s been a lot of negative comparisons made through the lens of <strong>WWE<\/strong> and AEW tribalism. Legitimate questions and concerns around AEW\u2019s new roster signings can be found\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/prowrestling\/2024\/03\/30\/wwe-learn-aew-bidding-war-2024\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">here<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">. As for the bad faith comments, well\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Many comments I have read online about Mon\u00e9 being overvalued have bordered on sexism and misogynistic. Some fans talked as if they knew Mercedes\u2019 intentions to ruin wrestling or as if they knew her to contract back to front. One fan told me how Mon\u00e9 has a creative control clause like\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Hulk Hogan<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> These extreme takes where over-exaggeration is rife and the vitriol flows freely. Whether trolling, genuine, or somewhere in between, all flirt with the worst aspects of parasocial relationships. The reality is, that we know nothing about how wrestlers think and feel beyond interviews and tweets.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Others have criticized Okada and Ospreay for just being wrestlers. When writing about\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/prowrestling\/2024\/03\/28\/wwes-the-bloodline-storyline-displays-toxic-masculinity\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\"><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The Bloodline\u2019s<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0display of toxic masculinity,<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0I compared a meme contrasting WWE\u2019s\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Roman Reigns<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0to Ospreay. The meme states that AEW has just presented Ospreay as a great wrestler. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Yes, to an extent. However, Billy Goat\u2019s been on AEW TV for a short period and is adjusting incredibly well to weekly episodic wrestling TV. Something\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">NJPW<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0does not do. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Ospreay declares he is a great wrestler, but the fans in the arena and online are investing in him. Plus, layers are being added to his character slowly. In comparison, it took years for\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Roman Reigns<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0to be accepted as the next face of the company.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Elsewhere, things have been selective ignored or history is supposedly repeating itself. Mercedes having creative control is an example of many references made to\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">WCW<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">It\u2019s becoming too easy and too misleading of a shortcut for some fans to say AEW is just like WCW.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><strong>The Problem with It\u2019s Just like WCW\u00a0<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Comparisons to WCW are becoming more popular. Signing these wrestlers to huge contracts is going to end AEW soon. Insert pictures of half-empty arenas as proof and a caption linking this again to WCW from the company\u2019s dying days. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The problem with this discord, like earlier this year when some fans were re-evaluating\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/prowrestling\/2024\/03\/12\/the-undertaker-vs-sting-breaking-down-discord\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\"><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The Undertaker<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> vs.<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0Sting<\/span><\/strong><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, is that our current biases change our views of history.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">It\u2019s made easier by\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Tony Khan<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0stating that AEW is WCW\u2019s spiritual successor. Being on the same Turner networks just makes the comparison more convenient. Ratings are dipping. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Another point of comparison. Compare how AEW went through a creative dip in 2024, with distractingly low attendance numbers in many markets to WWE\u2019s creative and financial resurgence, it looks like the\u00a0<\/span>Attitude Era<span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0all over again.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The issue is this is confirmation bias and pattern spotting. It\u2019s easily done but not accurate. For example,\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/prowrestling\/2024\/04\/04\/beyond-wrestlemania-40-wwe-utilize-jade-cargill\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\"><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Jade Cargill <\/span><\/strong>is not <strong>Goldberg<\/strong>, despite some overlap<\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">. Some fans will magnify the tiny segment of the Venn Diagram to prove their points. But this misses the larger picture and the bigger differences.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Another issue with this default narrative is simply this isn\u2019t the 1990s again. Also, history itself, especially related to contracts and money, has been rewritten post-<\/span>Monday Night Wars<span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0by WWE. Some truths have been bent out of shape.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><strong>Monday Night War Propaganda<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Studying history, you learn that the person controlling the pen, spreading the information, shapes the narrative on they like. War propaganda often does not end with the war. It continues long afterward with old myths and new myths being built to put more shine on the victor.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I remember being a young teenage fan watching WWE specials on\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Sky Sports<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0or\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Youtube<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">.\u00a0<\/span><em><strong>Legends of Wrestling Roundtable<\/strong><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><em>\u00a0<\/em>or documentaries like\u00a0<\/span><em><strong>The Death of WCW<\/strong><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0were two notable sources of post-war propaganda. These sources and the legends who spoke on them usually told me there were good guys and bad guys.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Vince McMahon<span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">and WWE- Good.\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Eric Bischoff\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">and WCW- bad.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The Undertaker<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0and the guys who stayed in WWE- good.\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Kevin Nash<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0and\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Scott Hall<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0who left- bad. Very bad.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Even when WCW guys were featured, they would also rewrite history to show themselves more favorably. Especially on the Legends Roundtable. Eric Bischoff took credit for some things and avoided blame for others.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Diamond Dallas Page<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u2019s most notable defense of WCW was for how\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">David Arquette<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0handled being given the WCW World Championship. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Kevin Nash either confused events accidentally or purposefully lied when he justified the\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">NWO Elite&#8217;s<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0failure. Nash stated Goldberg injuring himself by smashing his arm through a limousine window stopped the creative plans for Goldberg to blitz through the entire faction to re-establish him as the top guy. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The issue was the NWO Elite formed in January 1999, Goldberg\u2019s injury happened in December, way after the Elite petered out.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Nash and Hall,\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The Outsiders<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, were turning point players in wrestling history besides helping start the\u00a0<\/span>Monday Night War<span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">. In many ways, their legendary WCW contracts changed wrestling for the better, depending on who you believe.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><strong>The Excessiveness of WCW Contracts was Bad\u00a0<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Let\u2019s be clear, in many ways, the excessive amounts and bonus clauses given to some WCW wrestlers, like Hall and Nash damaged the company\u2019s finances in the long term. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">It contributed, along with a range of other factors such as bad creative, bad management, mistakes, and missed opportunities in marketing and merchandising, that contributed to WCW being unprofitable. WCW had an issue with accounting and contracts played a big part in this.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">This is well documented. I am not rebuking the countless articles and historical books that point out the financial issues created by ridiculous high-paying contracts, minimal dates, creative control, and nepotistic deals (that guys like\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Larry Poffo<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0benefitted from). <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">This helped (partially) to sink WCW and contributed to a creative and business nightmare.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The issue with the myth is that overall, the idea that paying more to wrestlers was unfair because WWE could not compete with that, and also long-term this was bad overall for the industry.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Excess was the problem, not the fact that wrestlers got paid more. Yet it seems now that the idea of AEW offering more money instantly means more money for wrestlers is a bad thing because of this longstanding myth and their WCW links. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Yet, as far as we know, AEW isn\u2019t offering favorite nations clauses or giving celebrities who have appeared for the company like<strong> Dennis Rodman<\/strong> $1 million. But as stated, some fans are talking as if they are.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><strong>The Underdog Myth of WWE\u00a0<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">As stated already, history is written by the winners. Those winners have talked up the ridiculous nature of the WCW contracts, and yet WWE contracts in the early 1990s, do not get mentioned. There is the famous story of the WWE being nearly bankruptcy and the watercoolers being removed from\u00a0<\/span>Titan Towers<span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0to save cash. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">But WWE rebounded. It has always had the feeling of a classic Hollywood film where the underdog loses their wealth and then has to rebound.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">But WWE as the underdog historically is a false narrative. What WCW did tactically with contracts and money was the same as what <strong>Vince McMahon<\/strong> did to destroy the territories. Also, this famous story focuses on the corporate HQ and the office\u2019s experiences rather than the wrestlers on the road and their struggles.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Also, when money has been discussed, it\u2019s usually linked to the headliners and with the narrative of WWE, desperately having to offer everything they could to keep their top talent. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The millions offered to\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Bret Hart<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0for a twenty-year contract at $1 million a year stands the test of time. What isn\u2019t mentioned is how much\/ (little depending on your perspective) the rest of the roster was paid.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">To be clear again, WWE was in dire straits. Regarding WCW, they were the underdog financially. Nonetheless, focusing the myth on the struggle while avoiding the little wrestlers who were paid avoids debate about whether WWE was tight-fisted and treated their wrestlers fairly.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><strong>New Generation Era: Business was Bad and So Was Pay\u00a0<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">When discussing the\u00a0<\/span>New Generation Era<span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, the emphasis always focuses on how business was down. It was and WWE made less money on TV tapings and house shows. How this affected top talent like Scott Hall and Kevin Nash was it eventually forced them to go to WCW.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">When I say forced, if you have listened to various interviews with both men, they make it clear neither of them wanted to go to WCW. To what extent there is hindsight bias there is uncertainty. But when they talked about the money they received despite their value to the company, it seemed silly to begrudge them for wanting more money.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">WWE did have guarantees to an extent, but at a sustainable level to live comfortably:<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>\u201cMy [WWF] contract, as was everybody&#8217;s, except for maybe Hulk [Hogan] and stuff, [Ultimate] Warrior, [was] 10 days at $150 a date, guaranteed.&#8221; Hall said, &#8220;Yeah, you made more than that, but that was what you were guaranteed. $1,500 and you give up everything for $1,500.\u201d <\/em><\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Scott Hall,\u00a0<a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wrestlinginc.com\/news\/2020\/02\/scott-hall-reveals-his-low-wwe-downside-guarantee-pay-666039\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Wrestling Inc<\/a>.<\/em><\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>\u201cWe got paid $75 for a TV Day and that was to cover hotel, food, and a rental car. 90% of TVs were done in the northeast. You tell me how many people, even in 1994, $75.It didn&#8217;t cover the room, let alone a town car, gas, going over a couple of bridges. Horizontal Bridge was $7 back then. You could get a $200 draw against your Pikeville house show payment of $170. I&#8217;ve actually seen people get checks and owe the company money, not even making $200 a day on the road.\u201d <\/em><\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Kevin Nash, Kliq This #75<\/em><\/h4>\n<h3><strong>Other Voices Besides Nash and Hall<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">If Nash\u2019s claim some wrestlers owed the company money sounds iffy,\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Duke &#8220;the Dumpster&#8221; Droese<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0confirmed elements of this on an\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Instagram<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0story:<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>\u201cNew Generation payoffs was brought up earlier and I felt compelled to share this little turd nugget of truth. During the early to mid 90s WWF payoffs were the sh#ts for most of the roster. Houses were pathetic and money was way down. \u2026 On house show loops, the office made available a certain amount of cash for each wrestler should he or she need it for road expenses. This payment was called a &#8220;Draw&#8221;. Each night the road agent would ask each wrestler if they wanted to take their &#8220;Draw&#8221; for the night\u2026\u00a0<\/em><\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">At one point in my illustrious career, I realized that the office was getting over on me for certain towns and buildings\u2026 On many house shows, as opening to mid-card match, there were MANY nights where my payoff was less than $200. There were tours where I knew to take my $200 draw because my check would be less\u2026 the smallest check I ever got from the WWF was a payoff for a small Canadian tour for a whopping $1.99 (yes in Canadian). Not every broke former wrestler squandered away millions of dollars\u2026 So you are welcome current WWE roster. Your publicly traded billion-dollar company was built on the broken backs of many guys like me<\/span><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">.\u201d <\/span><\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Duke \u201cThe Dumpster\u201d Droese,<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/Bxv3uDXpqv3\/?igshid=jo6qtzm21mf0\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0Instagram<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">.<\/span><\/h4>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">It has been estimated by some that lower card wrestlers like Droese may have made money in the region of $65,000 per year, around $100,000 in today\u2019s value. Now the average wage annual salary in America last year was $59,384. Wrestlers then earned more. But that\u2019s without taking out all the expenses and taxes.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><strong>Like DDP Said, That\u2019s a Good Thing\u00a0<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">In any sport, the promoters and those at the top want to ensure they control the amount of money paid to talent. The changes in contracts did not benefit the promoters long-term, but it benefited the wrestlers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Guaranteed money existed in wrestling before Hall and Nash went to WCW, just not that high an amount. In 1996, Vince started offering downsize guarantees to counter-act WCW\u2019s tactics. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">This benefited those wrestlers who stayed in WWE. Over time, as business got better, WWE offered its wrestlers better pay. Competition, like today, created a healthier environment for wrestlers. Gave them choices in terms of earning more money, a better schedule, better creative, etc. It\u2019s a win-win for talent.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">More places to work and more competitive wage means companies must make changes. Improvements have to happen to retain and attract new signings.\u00a0<\/span>Diamond Dallas Page<span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, who also called Kevin Nash the smartest guy in wrestling for changing how wrestlers earned more money, improving their livelihoods. As Page would say then, that\u2019s a good thing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">When WWE had a monopoly,\u00a0<\/span>Vince McMahon <span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">had full control over their finances and how they paid wrestlers. Wrestlers earned more than before, but without competition, costs can be controlled because where else can you work?\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">TNA<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">,\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">ROH,<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0<\/span>NJPW<span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, or the indies at the time and likely earn less on a smaller platform?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">No competition meant WWE could dictate terms and several experts have rightly pointed out that WWE wrestlers, compared to other top athletes elsewhere are underpaid.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><strong><u><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">What CM Punk Said\u00a0<\/span><\/u><\/strong><\/h3>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u201cGuaranteed money ruined professional wrestling<\/span><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">CM Punk<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, The MMA Hour.<\/span><\/h4>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Like any statement, it can and will be weaponized. Especially against AEW who this shot was directly aimed at. When breaking down\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/prowrestling\/2024\/04\/02\/breakdown-of-cm-punks-the-mma-hour-with-ariel-helwani-interview\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><strong>CM Punk\u2019s<\/strong> <em><strong>MMA Hour<\/strong> <\/em>interview<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, I avoided as much as possible making inferences about the man\u2019s intentions or feelings. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I am not Punk, but context is key. The context of this statement seemed primarily related to Punk\u2019s feelings that some young AEW wrestlers feel entitled and ungrateful.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Punk talked about how some talent wanted to get weeks of vignettes and segments taped so they could have several weeks off the road. His point was if they had to survive on money drawn from the gate, rather than a guarantee, this would motivate them more to perform and be better.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">This connects to the \u201cold-school\u201d myth that things were better back then. The idea of experiencing the constant grind makes you worthy of your position; and makes you better exists beyond wrestling. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Because the newer generation is luckier than the past, if they did what previous generations did, they would understand. It\u2019s another version of kids today who are soft.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">It ignores, as I stated in my article why wrestlers want to work in AEW, and how they can have a better work-life balance, especially for those with families. It also ignores some of the reality of the house show circuit. When the office gets things wrong, the talent\u2019s pay suffers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Lynch in her autobiography, in a screenshot that has been shared on X, points out that when on\u00a0<\/span><em><strong>SmackDown<\/strong><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, weekly Monday house shows (the same night as\u00a0<\/span><em><strong>Raw<\/strong><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">).<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>\u201cOftentimes meaning it costs us money to go to work.\u201d\u00a0<\/em><\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><em><strong>Becky Lynch: The Man: Not Your Average Girl<\/strong><\/em><\/h4>\n<h3><strong>You Wouldn\u2019t Want to Get Paid More?\u00a0<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Perhaps due to WWE mythmaking, but some fans still have this opinion that some wrestlers are not worth the high amounts of money they earn. This isn\u2019t again a wrestling issue. Fans of all sports complain how X isn\u2019t worth the amount he\u2019s paid.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Complaints made when\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Tokyo Sports<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0reported Okada might earn $4.5 million a year drew criticism of why he would earn so that much. My counter to that would be, that is as much as\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Randy Orton<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0makes in WWE. Also, according to estimated WWE figures, both Becky Lynch and\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Seth Rollins<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0earn $3 million per year. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Why isn\u2019t WWE paying them more? Especially given how impactful Lynch has been for women\u2019s wrestling and the company\u2019s historic record profit and rights fees. Shouldn\u2019t the talent performing on the shows earn more?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Is it wrong that competition might lead to people being paid more?<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><strong>Here Comes the Money! But From Where?\u00a0<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Last week,\u00a0<\/span><em>Raw<\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0drew a record gate. House show business and merchandise are booming, but this is not where the biggest sources of money are coming from.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">When tribalistic commentators attack AEW\u2019s attendance with photos, they miss the fact, that both WWE and AEW get the majority of their money now from TV rights deals. WWE gets money from streaming rights and is paid generously by some cities to host huge PLE events, like <\/span><em><strong>Clash at the Castle<\/strong><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"><em>\u00a0<\/em>last year. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">AEW gets revenue from PPV. Now despite difficult creative last year, AEW consistently drew upwards of 100,000+ buys for PPVs with an expanding schedule also.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Both businesses are doing well. WWE has more money than\u00a0<\/span>Scrooge McDuck<span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0could likely fit in his fault. AEW business has increased year on year. Observer Newsletter suggested 2023 the company made $170-175 million. That\u2019s a 67% increase from 2022. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Year on year the money AEW has earned has increased from $64 million in 2020 to $86 million in 2021. Then to a $100 million-plus in 2022. Yes, AEW might spend more. They have a billionaire\u2019s son backing the promotion. However, WWE is no mum-and-pop company.\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">TKO Holdings<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0is a billion-dollar business.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Ratings and attendance may be down, but money is money. Math is Math. Given not just long ago, WWE made money, just as CM Punk stated in his pipebomb \u201c<\/span>Vince McMahon<span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0is going to make money despite himself,\u201d shows a big issue of selective memory.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">But back to the wrestlers, these changes in revenue streams do impact how wrestlers in WWE have been paid.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><strong>Losses of Revenue<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Maven Huffman<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, a former WWE\u00a0<\/span><em><strong>Tough Enough<\/strong><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\"> winner, wrestler, and now YouTuber, has released several videos breaking down wrestler\u2019s pay in WWE. Granted, Maven left WWE in 2005, but he reveals several ways the WWE pay structure has changed and impacted the wrestler\u2019s paycheques.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">In the early 2000s, Maven had a guarantee of $50,000, $1,000 a week, if injured or off the road. The year Maven had a broken leg and was injured for a large portion of the year he made $80,000. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">That\u2019s also without the added costs on the road. Yet being paid on paysheets, based on % of ticket sales, paid on level on the card, Maven estimated he earned $2,000 a week. Again, this seems like a huge amount of money.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">PPVs allowed wrestlers to receive a pay bonus. Money could go \u201cthrew the roof\u201d. The most Maven made from one PPV was $30,000 as a midcarder on his best day. Top-level talent made $100,000 per PPV. However, the WWE Network \u201cdestroyed\u201d this.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Similarly, the sale of DVDs significantly \u201cdramatically killed\u201d quarterly royalties. Pre-Network, Maven estimated he earned more than $5,000 per quarter. Post-network that has shrunk to $300 per quarter. The rest of that money comes from video games and merchandise like action figures.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">In his best year, Maven earned $430,000. Take away 42-45% for tax. Take away road expenses, daily expenses, travel, hotel, food, rental cards, etc, it still leaves a decent chunk of change.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">But for men and women putting their bodies on the line and who statistically may not make it to retirement age, is this fair? Especially when compared to other athletes in other sports.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><strong>Trickle Down Economics\u00a0<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">In 2021,\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Forbes\u2019\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/blakeoestriecher\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Blake Oestriecher<\/span><\/strong><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0pointed out\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Dave Meltzer\u2019s<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0assertions that even WWE\u2019s top earners,\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Brock Lesnar<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0and\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Roman Reigns<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0with their light schedule are making less in comparison to sports stars in the NFL, NBA, and MLB where some of the biggest names earn $40 million a year.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">In the UK, the average\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Premiership League Football<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0(soccer) player earns \u00a33 million a year. The top players, like\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Marcus Rashford<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">, earn \u00a3300,00 a week!<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>\u201cOn any sports franchise, they\u2019re [the athletes] getting roughly 50% of the revenue. In WWE it\u2019s under 10%. So, you could put everyone\u2019s salary up five times and then you\u2019re getting the level where you would be equal to the other sports.\u201d <\/em><\/h4>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Dave Meltzer,\u00a0<strong>Wrestling Observer Radio<\/strong>.<\/em><\/h4>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Consider the fact WWE wrestlers are still \u201cindependent contractors\u201d, still having to pay for flights, accommodation, and various other travel expenses. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Also, consider the physical toll on their bodies performing day in and day out in comparison to other sports stars. Now consider the rates of injury, risk, and difference in timespan for a wrestler compared to any job, beyond sports.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">This isn\u2019t early 90s WWE and the water coolers aren\u2019t being taken out of the building. So, if WWE and TKO Group Holdings do not change their stance, it\u2019s not the wrestler\u2019s fault for wanting something more. If AEW offers more than just money, why would they not take it?<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><strong>Beyond Tribalism\u00a0<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">As fans of wrestling, we should want what is best for wrestlers and the wrestling industry. On the one hand, some fans need to appreciate the benefits of competition AEW brings. Like WCW, AEW has brought improvements that have or will slowly impact how WWE does business.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Yet regardless of company, it\u2019s pretty clear that wrestlers, across the board, are not earning enough for a dangerous profession where one wrong move could mean paralysis. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Although some of you may retain the old-school beliefs and keep the myths of WWE and the \u201cold school\u201d, please keep in mind many of those old-school names knew that things favored the promoters before them. That with time they were broken down doing what they and we love.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Again, shared on X in the wake of CM Punk\u2019s guaranteed money comments was something stated by\u00a0<\/span><strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u201cRowdy\u201d Roddy Piper<\/span><\/strong><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0when he returned to WWE at 49.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u201c<\/span><em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">What would you have me do at 49 when my pension plan, I can&#8217;t take out till I&#8217;m 65? I&#8217;m not going to make 65. Let&#8217;s just face facts, guys.&#8221;\u00a0<\/span><\/em><\/h4>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Piper died at the age of 61. Things are changing. Athletes now in their 40s are not the same as athletes in their 40s ten years ago. 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