{"id":53611,"date":"2019-08-11T11:00:06","date_gmt":"2019-08-11T15:00:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lastwordonhockey.com\/?p=53611"},"modified":"2019-08-10T22:16:18","modified_gmt":"2019-08-11T02:16:18","slug":"vancouver-canucks-draft-history-comparison-1980s","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/2019\/08\/11\/vancouver-canucks-draft-history-comparison-1980s\/","title":{"rendered":"Vancouver Canucks Draft History Comparison: 1980s"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>After entering the league in 1970, the Vancouver Canucks draft history was entering its second decade in the 1980s. The team had started making the playoffs regularly, seven times throughout the decade. That wasn&#8217;t much to brag about, though, as only five of 21 teams in the league didn&#8217;t accomplish this feat. But any success was welcome to the young(ish) team and their fans. However, only twice would the Canucks break the .500 mark twice in their first twenty years.<\/p>\n<h2>Vancouver Canucks Draft History: The &#8217;80s<\/h2>\n<h2 class=\"western\">Icons and Legends Arrive<\/h2>\n<p>This decade included their first run to the Stanley Cup Final in 1982. That&#8217;s sometimes enough, as the playoffs can be unpredictable for arguably the hardest trophy to win in sports. During that run came the iconic \u201csurrender\u201d of Coach <strong>Roger Neilson<\/strong> against the Chicago Blackhawks. How iconic? Ask the statue that stands outside of their arena showcasing the moment, commissioned decades later for the Canucks&#8217; 40th anniversary.<\/p>\n<p>Two legendary Canucks (and one legendary <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonhockey.com\/nhl-teams\/bruins\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Boston Bruin<\/a>) were drafted in the &#8217;80s. <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/l\/lindetr01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Trevor Linden<\/a><\/strong> and <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/b\/burepa01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Pavel Bure<\/a> <\/strong>led Vancouver in the 1990s, the stars of what was a dominant Vancouver offence. Otherwise, the Canucks draft history here seemed to be more dependent on luck than skill. A dozen times, picks after the third round would supersede earlier selections, often by hundreds of games played.\u00a0 That those careers didn&#8217;t always come to fruition with Vancouver could be a sign of the Canucks giving up on a player too soon, undervaluing them, or just the cost of making trades.<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"western\"><a name=\"paragraph13\"><\/a> <b>1980<\/b><\/h4>\n<p>Canucks: (7th overall)<\/p>\n<p>1st: <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/l\/lanzri01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Rick Lanz<\/a><\/b>, D (569 GP, 286 P)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: No pick<\/p>\n<p>3rd: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/s\/schlian01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><b>Andy Schliebener<\/b><\/a>, D (84 GP, 13 P)<\/p>\n<p><em>NHL Average<\/em><\/p>\n<p>1st: F (518 GP, 406 Points); D (653 GP, 461 Points); G (N\/A GP)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: F (275 GP, 130 Points); D (468 GP, 127 Points); G (672 GP)<\/p>\n<p>3rd: F (318 GP, 181 Points); D (335 GP, 67 Points); G (N\/A GP)<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"western\"><a name=\"paragraph26\"><\/a> <b>1981<\/b><\/h4>\n<p>Canucks: (10th overall)<\/p>\n<p>1st: <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/b\/butchga01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Garth Butcher<\/a><\/b>, D (897 GP, 206 P)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: No pick<\/p>\n<p>3rd: <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/l\/lanthje01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jean-Marc Lanthier<\/a><\/b>, F (105 GP, 32 P)<\/p>\n<p><em>NHL Average<\/em><\/p>\n<p>1st: F (670 GP, 575 Points); D (613 GP, 282 Points); G (868 GP)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: F (184 GP, 70 Points); D (529 GP, 221 Points); G (3 GP)<\/p>\n<p>3rd: F (112 GP, 42 Points); D (91 GP, 19 Points); G (447 GP)<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"western\"><a name=\"paragraph39\"><\/a> <b>1982<\/b><\/h4>\n<p>Canucks: (11th overall)<\/p>\n<p>1st: <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/p\/petitmi01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Michel Petit<\/a><\/b>, D (827 GP, 328 P)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: No pick<\/p>\n<p>3rd: <b>Yves Lapointe<\/b>, F(0 GP, 0 P)<\/p>\n<p><em>NHL Average<\/em><\/p>\n<p>1st: F (655 GP, 422 Points); D (837 GP, 356 Points); G (N\/A GP)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: F (356 GP, 203 Points); D (56 GP, 7 Points); G (N\/A GP)<\/p>\n<p>3rd: F (311 GP, 177 Points); D (50 GP, 21 Points); G (409 GP)<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"western\"><a name=\"paragraph52\"><\/a> <b>1983<\/b><\/h4>\n<p>Canucks: (9th overall)<\/p>\n<p>1st: <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/n\/neelyca01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cam Neely<\/a><\/b>, F (726 GP, 694 P)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/b\/bruceda01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">David Bruce<\/a><\/b>, F (234 GP, 87 P)<\/p>\n<p>3rd: <b>Scott Tottle<\/b>, F (0 GP, 0 P)<\/p>\n<p><em>NHL Average<\/em><\/p>\n<p>1st: F (723 GP, 537 Points); D (605 GP, 132 Points); G (777 GP)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: F (320 GP, 177 Points); D (286 GP, 53 Points); G (N\/A GP)<\/p>\n<p>3rd: F (267 GP, 127 Points); D (211 GP, 39 Points); G (219 GP)<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"western\"><a name=\"paragraph65\"><\/a> <b>1984<\/b><\/h4>\n<p>Canucks: (10th overall)<\/p>\n<p>1st: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/d\/daignjj01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><b>J.J. Daigneault<\/b><\/a>, D (899 GP, 250 P)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/r\/rohlije01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jeff Rohlicek<\/a><\/b>, F (9 GP, 0 P)<\/p>\n<p>3rd: <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/s\/saundda01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">David Saunders<\/a><\/b>, F (56 GP, 20 P) <b>Landis Chaulk<\/b>, F (0 GP, 0 P) <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/search\/search.fcgi?pid=stevemi02,stevemi01&amp;search=Mike+Stevens&amp;utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Mike Stevens<\/a><\/b>, F (23 GP, 5 P)<\/p>\n<p><em>NHL Average<\/em><\/p>\n<p>1st: F (750 GP, 584 Points); D (654 GP, 279 Points); G (N\/A GP)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: F (455 GP, 239 Points); D (492 GP, 196 Points); G (180 GP)<\/p>\n<p>3rd: F (186 GP, 137 Points); D (288 GP, 76 Points); G (515 GP)<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"western\"><a name=\"paragraph78\"><\/a> <b>1985<\/b><\/h4>\n<p>Canucks: (4th overall)<\/p>\n<p>1st: <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/s\/sandlji01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jim Sandlak<\/a><\/b>, F (549 GP, 229 P)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/g\/gambltr01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Troy Gamble<\/a><\/b>, G (72 GP)<\/p>\n<p>3rd: <b>Shayne Doyle<\/b>, D (0 GP, 0 P)<\/p>\n<p><em>NHL Average<\/em><\/p>\n<p>1st: F (352 GP, 204 Points); D (749 GP, 260 Points); G (N\/A GP)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: F (349 GP, 220 Points); D (198 GP, 66 Points); G (428 GP)<\/p>\n<p>3rd: F (96 GP, 52 Points); D (300 GP, 98 Points); G (146 GP)<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"western\"><a name=\"paragraph91\"><\/a> <b>1986<\/b><\/h4>\n<p>Canucks: (7th overall)<\/p>\n<p>1st: <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/w\/woodlda01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dan Woodley<\/a><\/b>, F (5 GP, 2 P)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: No pick<\/p>\n<p>3rd: <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/g\/gibsodo02.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Don Gibson<\/a><\/b>, D (14 GP, 3 P)<\/p>\n<p><em>NHL Average<\/em><\/p>\n<p>1st: F (445 GP, 286 Points); D (625 GP, 405 Points); G (N\/A GP)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: F (201 GP, 104 Points); D (269 GP, 86 Points); G (N\/A GP)<\/p>\n<p>3rd: F (139 GP, 37 Points); D (178 GP, 61 Points); G (43 GP)<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"western\"><a name=\"paragraph104\"><\/a> <b>1987<\/b><\/h4>\n<p>Canucks: (24th overall)<\/p>\n<p>1 st: No pick<\/p>\n<p>2nd: <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/m\/murphro02.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Rob Murphy<\/a><\/b>, F (125 GP, 21 P)<\/p>\n<p>3rd: <b>Steve Veilleux<\/b>, D (0 GP, 0 P)<\/p>\n<p><em>NHL Average<\/em><\/p>\n<p>1st: F (709 GP, 605 Points); D (642 GP, 163 Points); G (106 GP)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: F (356 GP, 198 Points); D (246 GP, 81 Points); G (372 GP)<\/p>\n<p>3rd: F (59 GP, Points); D (340 GP, 135 Points); G (0 GP)<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"western\"><a name=\"paragraph117\"><\/a> <b>1988<\/b><\/h4>\n<p>Canucks: (2nd overall)<\/p>\n<p>1st: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/l\/lindetr01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><b>Trevor Linden<\/b><\/a>, F (1382 GP, 867 P)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/r\/rohlile01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Leif Rohlin<\/a><\/b>, D (96 GP, 32 P)<\/p>\n<p>3rd: <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/j\/jacksda01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dane Jackson<\/a><\/b>, F (45 GP, 18 P)<\/p>\n<p><em>NHL Average<\/em><\/p>\n<p>1st: F (639 GP, 480 Points); D (291 GP, 51 Points); G (62 GP)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: F (202 GP, 48 Points); D (66 GP, 20 Points); G (390 GP)<\/p>\n<p>3rd: F (104 GP, 50 Points); D (0 GP, 0 Points); G (63 GP)<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"western\"><a name=\"paragraph130\"><\/a> 1989<\/h4>\n<p>Canucks: (8th overall)<\/p>\n<p>1st: <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/h\/herteja01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jason Herter<\/a><\/b>, D (1 GP, 0 P)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: <b>Rob Woodward<\/b>, F (0 GP, 0 P)<\/p>\n<p>3rd: No pick<\/p>\n<p><em>NHL Average<\/em><\/p>\n<p>1st: F (651 GP, 388 Points); D (263 GP, 51 Points); G (719 GP)<\/p>\n<p>2nd: F (312 GP, 114 Points); D (430 GP, 111 Points); G (208 GP)<\/p>\n<p>3rd: F (265 GP, 88 Points); D (457 GP, 291 Points); G (21 GP)<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"western\">Vancouver Canucks Draft History: Predicting the Future<\/h3>\n<p>This decade probably has the clearest example of why collecting these stats is only really useful in retrospect: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/l\/lidstni01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><b>Nicklas Lidstrom<\/b><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>While five defencemen were taken in total during the third round of the 1989 NHL Draft, three busted out. One did fine (<b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/w\/woollja01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jason Woolley<\/a><\/b> managed 718 games and over 300 points) and the last was, well, a legend. If your team took a D in that year, and that round, they <i>probably<\/i> missed: but you&#8217;d happily take those odds if the one-in-five shot was a first-ballot Hall-of-Fame member, wouldn&#8217;t you?<\/p>\n<p>Likewise, it&#8217;s easy to say that picking <b>Jean-Marc Lanthier<\/b> in 1981 was a miss. Compared to the rest of the defence drafted around him, though, he was fine. They could have drafted <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/v\/vernomi01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Mike Vernon<\/a><\/b> that round, but it&#8217;s safe to remember that he was the fourth goalie selected that year. That tells you how he was thought of by many scouts and teams. The reputation of the Canucks draft history among their fans is almost universally bad; but when the pickings are slim, what you end up with are slim pickings.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"western\">Blind Pigs and Acorns<\/h3>\n<p>There is always going to be some luck involved in drafting, however much money is spent on scouting departments. A team taking a chance on an unknown or under-scouted player is going to be increasingly rare as more information becomes available. But there&#8217;s always a chance someone was having a bad week when scouts were in town. Or they were from a remote corner of the world and are only known through statistics. Or were ignored because of a star player on their team.<\/p>\n<p>Is something lost by that new accessibility? As good as <b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/l\/lundqhe01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Henrik Lundqvist<\/a><\/b> is, the fight that the one New York Rangers scout to see him play had in getting the team to draft him <i>at all<\/i> makes for a great story as well.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"western\">Changing Too Soon?<\/h3>\n<p>The Canucks draft history has improved very recently, but by how much is yet to be determined. One reason the GM <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/b\/benniji01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jim Benning<\/a> was hired was his strong scouting experience, showing which direction the owners wanted the team to move. While his very first pick played NHL hockey within two years, most of his selections have been allowed to age. As a result few of his picks have left statistical evidence for the strength of his drafting.<\/p>\n<p>Whether it works or not is like everything else when drafting is involved: waiting for the future is the only way to tell.<\/p>\n<p>Main Photo:<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"ds1P7gjRQ_Z9i044GtGRBQ\" class=\"gie-single\" style=\"color: #a7a7a7; text-decoration: none; font-weight: normal !important; border: none; display: inline-block;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gettyimages.com\/detail\/73904964\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Embed from Getty Images<\/a><script>window.gie=window.gie||function(c){(gie.q=gie.q||[]).push(c)};gie(function(){gie.widgets.load({id:'ds1P7gjRQ_Z9i044GtGRBQ',sig:'5UN2baIi0sueql4vYd_KXmYwLtwsL9TSU40KqlGf8Wk=',w:'594px',h:'398px',items:'73904964',caption: true ,tld:'com',is360: false })});<\/script><script src='\/\/embed-cdn.gettyimages.com\/widgets.js' charset='utf-8' async><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After entering the league in 1970, the Vancouver Canucks draft history was entering its second decade in the 1980s. The team had started making the playoffs regularly, seven times throughout the decade. That wasn&#8217;t much to brag about, though, as only five of 21 teams in the league didn&#8217;t accomplish this feat. 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