{"id":441106,"date":"2024-05-15T09:00:19","date_gmt":"2024-05-15T13:00:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/?p=441106"},"modified":"2024-05-15T08:50:21","modified_gmt":"2024-05-15T12:50:21","slug":"ottawa-senators-bottom-six-for-2024-25","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/2024\/05\/15\/ottawa-senators-bottom-six-for-2024-25\/","title":{"rendered":"The Ottawa Senators Bottom-Six for 2024-25"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"s3\">One thing is for sure, if the <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/category\/senators\/\" target=\"_self\"><span class=\"s4\">Ottawa Senators<\/span><\/a> are going to get a sniff at the 2025 Stanley Cup playoffs, their bottom-six needs to go from a weakness to a strength. Plain and simple, you need to have guys who step-in to produce. For example, let\u2019s take a look at the bottom-eight forwards in Ottawa Senators scoring in 2023-24. This list of 4<span class=\"s2\">th<\/span> liners for the Ottawa Senators included guys like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/c\/chartro01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Rourke Chartier<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/s\/smejkji01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jiri Smejkal<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/c\/crookan01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Angus Crookshank<\/a>, among others. They combined for a miniscule 14 points in 127 games totaled. It might be the opposite end of the spectrum, but compare to the <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/category\/stars\/\" target=\"_self\">Dallas Stars<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/d\/duchema01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Matt Duchene<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/s\/seguity01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Tyler Seguin<\/a> found themselves playing together on the third line in 2023-24. They had 65 and 52 points, respectively. So, how can they expect to compete against playoff teams, when they get so badly outplayed.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"s3\">How Do We Build the Ottawa Senators 1<span class=\"s2\">st<\/span> Through 4<span class=\"s2\">th<\/span> Forward Lines<\/h2>\n<p class=\"s3\">In order to determine who\u2019s available for the Ottawa Senators 4<span class=\"s2\">th <\/span>line, we can quickly touch on the top two lines. It\u2019s not a perfect science, but assuming the 2023-24 lines succeed, we can knock off the top two lines. Now a word of caution, and why we say it is not a perfect science, is because year-over-year, line combinations don\u2019t always carry over equivalent success.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"s3\">First and Foremost, the Top-Six is Very Good<\/h3>\n<p class=\"s3\">The main example from 2022-23 to 2023-24, was the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/t\/tkachbr01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Brady Tkachuk<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/s\/stuetti02.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Tim Stutzle<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/g\/giroucl01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Claude Giroux<\/a> line. Yes, they may have been impacted by Stutzle being banged up, and Giroux negatively regressing. However, according to <a href=\"https:\/\/moneypuck.com\/lines.htm\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span class=\"s4\">moneypuck<\/span><\/a>, their xGoals% as a line went from 59.9 to 53.0. But it helped that the new lines from 2023-24 did pick up the pace. Tkachuk, along with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/p\/pintosh01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Shane Pinto<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/b\/bathedr01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Drake Batherson<\/a> were 56.6. Also, the Stutzle, Giroux, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/j\/josepma01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Mathieu Joseph<\/a> line managed a rating of 54.0. In any sense, even the top lines weren\u2019t good enough for long enough to make the Sens a competitive team in the Eastern Conference playoff race. As a sidebar, Pinto&#8217;s emergence as sure fire top-six guy was very evident in 2023-24.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"s3\">Norris and Greig on the 3<span class=\"s2\">rd<\/span> Line Exciting Possibilities<\/h3>\n<p class=\"s3\">So, if we decide to go with those lines from 2023-24 into 2024-25, we have a couple potential top-six guys leftover for the third line. This is a huge deal, when you think of teams like the Stars or the <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/category\/leafs\/\" target=\"_self\">Toronto Maple Leafs<\/a> with a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/d\/domima01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Max Domi<\/a>, this is the calibre of third liners of playoff contenders. Therefore, those two players on the Sens roster available for the third line are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/g\/greigri01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ridly Greig<\/a> and a rested <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/n\/norrijo01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Joshua Norris<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">Due to injuries, going back to the start of the 2020-21 season, Norris has only played 180 NHL games. They have been productive games as he\u2019s scored 70 times, but this Sens group needs him in the lineup. Regardless, having him come in in a third line role should help shelter him from pressure and tougher defensive assignments. If he can play with a guy like Greig, they can help each other too, whether on faceoffs, offensively, or on the backcheck. Having two responsible players like that, will be a huge advantage.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">Now, like Tkachuk can for Stutzle, they will need someone to protect them. This is where <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/o\/ostapza01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Zack Ostapchuk<\/a> comes in. We know he won\u2019t back down and has nice hands around the net. He has shown a scoring touch in the past with 31 goals in his last year of juniors. In addition, he had 17 this year for the Belleville Senators, the Sens AHL affiliate. The one potential downside to Ostapchuk, but only in terms of timing, is he may need more development time in the AHL. And the Sens need someone for October 2024. There are some internal options, such as Crookshank, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/j\/jarvero01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Roby Jarventie<\/a>, or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/k\/kastema01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Mark Kastelic<\/a>, but point is, someone needs to step up, and produce in that role. The other option is, of course, external. This is where adding a veteran, two-way guy to the middle six really gives the Sens more options.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"CTsJCAYTuY\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/2024\/05\/13\/podcast-travis-green-hired\/\" target=\"_self\">Last Word on Sens Podcast: Travis Green Hired and Other Notes with Jamie McLennan<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"&#8220;Last Word on Sens Podcast: Travis Green Hired and Other Notes with Jamie McLennan&#8221; &#8212; Last Word On Hockey\" src=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/2024\/05\/13\/podcast-travis-green-hired\/embed\/#?secret=mdKUNtNvb2#?secret=CTsJCAYTuY\" data-secret=\"CTsJCAYTuY\" width=\"600\" height=\"338\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>One more internal option, and given his emergence this season, is Stephen Halliday. Someone like Tyler Boucher is also a possibility, but Halliday seemed to outproduce Boucher. Albeit a small sample size, but the Sens need a third liner to produce. The key is that the Senators depth plays with an identity. They need to be pesky to play against. Moreover, they need to chip in offensively more regularly, be physical or at least block shots, and above all, responsible defensively.<\/p>\n<h3>Now Let\u2019s Dig In on the Ottawa Senators 4<span class=\"s2\">th<\/span> Line<\/h3>\n<p>Here our primary focus is on internal options. And on Kastelic, he is better suited as the fourth line centre. So, we will pencil him in there, as well as Ostapchuk on the third line. The fourth line just needs to be reliable. We actually saw down the stretch of 2023-24, these guys do well. Kastelic, Kelly, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/k\/katchbo01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Boris Katchouk<\/a> had good ends to their campaigns. Katchouk is an RFA, who we might see come back given his success after coming over around the trade deadline off waivers from the <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/category\/blackhawks\/\" target=\"_self\">Chicago Blackhawks<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Two players we don\u2019t anticipate coming back are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/k\/kubaldo01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dominik Kubalik<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/s\/smejkji01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jiri Smejkal<\/a>. Kubalik didn\u2019t take advantage of his time in Ottawa in 2023-24 and had poor analytics to show. His CF% Rel of -0.8 is poor for an offensive player, with an oSZ% of 52. He did score 11 goals, which was one of his lone personal bright spots. But when you consider all the second unit power play time he was afforded, even that isn\u2019t impressive. And Smejkal showed some chemistry with Kubalik early on, but he spent the year in Belleville mostly. Someone coming from Europe to play in Belleville, wouldn\u2019t sit to well. Unless he likes his role with the affiliate, don\u2019t look for the Sens to keep him either.<\/p>\n<h3>Ultimately, the Coach and GM Need to be Accountable<\/h3>\n<p>Other than that, unlike 2023-24, it is up to the players who are given opportunity to step up. Or if <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/g\/greentr01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Travis Green<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/s\/staiost01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Steve Staios<\/a> don\u2019t think internally the answer is there, and there\u2019s enough time and money to get it done, bring someone in during the offseason. It also depends on a couple other factors as well, whether they go internally or externally. Will there be injuries, and the ability to rely upon the LTIR cap relief space? The point of the GM being accountable is when injuries do occur, and they will, stepping up and filling roles with suitable pieces. Last season, internal pieces tried unsuccessfully to fill-in. However, if you want to contend for the playoffs, there isn\u2019t time mid-season to let players figure it out on their own.<\/p>\n<h3>Freeing up Cap Space, so 3rd Liners Can Play the 4th Line for the Ottawa Senators<\/h3>\n<p>The cap is going up, but they need to find money for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/p\/pintosh01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Shane Pinto<\/a>, as he\u2019s currently an unsigned RFA. If they want to <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/2024\/01\/14\/forwards-available-for-ottawa-senators-to-target-trade-rumours\/\" target=\"_self\"><span class=\"s4\">look externally<\/span><\/a>, perhaps an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/d\/duclaan01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Anthony Duclair<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/h\/henriad01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Adam Henrique<\/a>, or trying to get <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/t\/tarasvl01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Vladimir Tarasenko<\/a> back is an option. It is really going to depend on some little moves to see how much there is to spend. Kubalik, along with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/b\/branner01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Erik Brannstrom<\/a> are two of those important decisions, purely based on the 2023-24 salaries. Is it time to consider moving on from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/f\/forsban01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Anton Forsberg<\/a>, and bringing in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/s\/sogaama01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Mads Sogaard<\/a>, and saving a few more dollars there? Given Sogaard\u2019s status as waiver-exempt still, maybe hold off until we see how Forsberg and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/k\/korpijo01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Joonas Korpisalo<\/a> are performing.<\/p>\n<p>In terms of salary cap space, what will it mean for the Ottawa Senators 3rd and 4th lines? If it means the difference between a free agent addition to this lineup, it will be something to consider. Even though it was Pierre Dorion\u2019s doing, having <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/d\/debrial01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Alex DeBrincat<\/a> and then Tarasenko in the lineup that past two seasons, really helped fill out the forward group. But is that money better spent on a top-four, right shot defenceman? That\u2019s for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hockey-reference.com\/players\/s\/staiost01.html?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2024-05-15_hr\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Steve Staios<\/a> to decide over the next four months or so. It is unlikely that whoever the Sens decide to take at seven in the 2024 NHL entry draft will make an instant impact. Therefore, they need to focus on rounding out the roster, and when players falter, having the quick decision making and accountability to the players and organization, to make it right.<\/p>\n<p>Main photo: Marc DesRosiers USA TODAY Sports<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One thing is for sure, if the Ottawa Senators are going to get a sniff at the 2025 Stanley Cup playoffs, their bottom-six needs to go from a weakness to a strength. Plain and simple, you need to have guys who step-in to produce. For example, let\u2019s take a look at the bottom-eight forwards in [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4222,"featured_media":441107,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_lmt_disableupdate":"no","_lmt_disable":"","sfio_featured_image":false,"sfio_embed_code":"","_ef_editorial_meta_date_first-draft-date":"","_ef_editorial_meta_paragraph_assignment":"","_ef_editorial_meta_checkbox_needs-photo":"","_ef_editorial_meta_number_word-count":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[8,2,4547,4548],"tags":[1605,4176,4470,4452,1571],"class_list":["post-441106","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-senators","category-featured","category-hockey","category-nhl","tag-josh-norris","tag-mark-kastelic","tag-ridly-greig","tag-steve-staios","tag-travis-green"],"modified_by":"Alec Roberson","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/441106","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4222"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=441106"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/441106\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/441107"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=441106"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=441106"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/hockey\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=441106"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}