{"id":18996,"date":"2019-03-02T13:00:51","date_gmt":"2019-03-02T18:00:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lwosonnba.ms.lastwordonsports.com\/?p=18996"},"modified":"2019-03-02T12:47:41","modified_gmt":"2019-03-02T17:47:41","slug":"15-years-later-ball-still-dont-lie-the-pistons-post-rasheed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/2019\/03\/02\/15-years-later-ball-still-dont-lie-the-pistons-post-rasheed\/","title":{"rendered":"The Detroit Pistons Post-Rasheed Wallace"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It\u2019s now been 15 years since the Pistons <a href=\"http:\/\/www.espn.com\/nba\/news\/story?id=1739128\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">traded<\/a> for <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/w\/wallara01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Rasheed Wallace<\/a><\/strong>. He was in a trade that involved <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/h\/hunteli01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Lindsey Hunter<\/a><\/strong>, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/a\/atkinch01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Chucky Atkins<\/a><\/strong>, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/m\/millsch01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Chris Mills<\/a><\/strong>, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/search\/search.fcgi?pid=jamesmi01,jamesmi02&amp;search=Mike+James&amp;utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Mike James<\/a><\/strong>, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/r\/rebraze01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Zeljko Rebraca<\/a><\/strong>, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/s\/surabo01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bob Sura<\/a><\/strong> and draft picks. Most Pistons fans remember only two names on that list, Hunter who later came back to the Pistons in 2005 and Rasheed. This trade proved to be the one that sent the Pistons to the top in 2004.<\/p>\n<h1><strong>15 Years Later, Detroit Pistons Post-Rasheed<\/strong><\/h1>\n<p>One thing that brought the Pistons into making this trade was the infamous draft of 2003. As most of us remember, the Cleveland Cavaliers drafted <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/j\/jamesle01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">LeBron James<\/a><\/strong> with the #1 overall pick, then it was the Pistons\u2019 turn. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/w\/wadedw01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Dwyane Wade<\/strong><\/a>, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/b\/boshch01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Chris Bosh<\/a><\/strong>, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/a\/anthoca01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Carmelo Anthony<\/a><\/strong> and a host of future all-stars were on the draft board waiting to join a Pistons team that aspired for a championship. Who did the Pistons pick? <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/m\/milicda01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Darko Milicic<\/a><\/strong>, who turned out to be the laughing stock of the team, statistically.<\/p>\n<p>Things could have turned out better for the Pistons had they drafted one of Wade, Bosh, or Melo. But the Milicic draft pick led the team to add a piece at the trade deadline, and Rasheed was it. If you watched him play, you knew that he was bound to pick up a T at some point in the game, which added up in later years that led him to serve multiple single-game suspensions. But fans really didn\u2019t care. They cared about his attitude, swagger, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nba.com\/video\/games\/hornets\/2012\/11\/20\/0021200155-nyk-noh-play5.nba\/?cid=nba_12_twitter_L\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">famous quote<\/a>, \u201cBall don\u2019t lie.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This great run lasted until 2009, after the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.espn.com\/nba\/news\/story?id=3679931\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">blockbuster trade<\/a> that <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/d\/dumarjo01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Joe Dumars<\/a><\/strong> pulled to land <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/i\/iversal01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Allen Iverson<\/a><\/strong> in Detroit. While it provided the shake-up that Dumars wanted, it\u2019s only cycled the team into a downward spiral, to which they\u2019ve only made one playoff appearance since the 08-09 season. On Joe Dumars and that round of ownership, &#8216;ball didn\u2019t lie&#8217;.<\/p>\n<h2><strong>The Aftermath<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>Ten years after Rasheed left Detroit, &#8216;ball still don\u2019t lie&#8217;. The Pistons have since relied on new ownership, with Tom Gores taking over the reins. They\u2019ve also moved arenas, from the Palace of Auburn Hills to Little Caesar\u2019s Arena in downtown Detroit. And sadly, the sea of mediocrity continued, with multiple coaches trying to stop it. <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/c\/currymi01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Michael Curry<\/a><\/strong>, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/k\/kuestjo01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">John Kuester<\/a><\/strong>, Lawrence Frank, Mo Cheeks, John Loyer, and Stan Van Gundy were all given a chance, to no avail. The list could possibly end up as long as the Browns QB list since their re-inception in 1996. (But hey, if it helps, Baker Mayfield seems to be the answer there!)<\/p>\n<p>To remind this team that &#8216;ball still don\u2019t lie&#8217;, the Pistons just let a Milicic-like figure in <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/e\/ellenhe01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Henry Ellenson<\/a><\/strong> sign a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.freep.com\/story\/sports\/nba\/pistons\/2019\/02\/20\/detroit-pistons-henry-ellenson-new-york-knicks\/2925589002\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ten-day contract<\/a> with the New York Knicks. He bounced from the Grand Rapids Drive to Detroit, and this is what the Pistons could&#8217;ve done with Darko Milicic. But hey, the #2 pick has high expectations, ya know?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/coaches\/caseydw99c.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Dwane Casey<\/strong><\/a> has his hands full, and he knew this, as he\u2019s now in charge of this team. With the trade deadline come and gone, we\u2019ll see if the Pistons hold on to that 8 seed. But for now, it seems as if the team needs another voice like Rasheed to put a pep in their step. Could that voice be <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/g\/greendr01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Draymond Green<\/a><\/strong> within the next year or two? We shall see. But for now, &#8216;ball still don\u2019t lie&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>Main Image:<br \/>\n<a id=\"uS4v4wXJQLNJLK62bfZB9w\" class=\"gie-single\" style=\"color: #a7a7a7; text-decoration: none; font-weight: normal !important; border: none; display: inline-block;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gettyimages.com\/detail\/580012016\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Embed from Getty Images<\/a><script>window.gie=window.gie||function(c){(gie.q=gie.q||[]).push(c)};gie(function(){gie.widgets.load({id:'uS4v4wXJQLNJLK62bfZB9w',sig:'sXd9YAtaf9D9dPU0tKJZpZN-Qe7ezlsjy2VHlPAwjms=',w:'594px',h:'416px',items:'580012016',caption: true ,tld:'com',is360: false })});<\/script><script src='\/\/embed-cdn.gettyimages.com\/widgets.js' charset='utf-8' async><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It\u2019s now been 15 years since the Pistons traded for Rasheed Wallace. He was in a trade that involved Lindsey Hunter, Chucky Atkins, Chris Mills, Mike James, Zeljko Rebraca, Bob Sura and draft picks. Most Pistons fans remember only two names on that list, Hunter who later came back to the Pistons in 2005 and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2970,"featured_media":19250,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","sfio_featured_image":false,"sfio_embed_code":"","_ef_editorial_meta_date_first-draft-date":"","_ef_editorial_meta_paragraph_assignment":"","_ef_editorial_meta_checkbox_needs-photo":"","_ef_editorial_meta_number_word-count":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[62,10],"tags":[340,409,96,1382,1172],"class_list":["post-18996","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-nba","category-pistons","tag-detroit-pistons","tag-draymond-green","tag-nba","tag-nba-trade","tag-rasheed-wallace"],"modified_by":"Daniel Richeson","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18996","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2970"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=18996"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18996\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/19250"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=18996"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=18996"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=18996"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}