{"id":127604,"date":"2025-03-08T23:00:26","date_gmt":"2025-03-09T04:00:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/?p=127604"},"modified":"2025-03-08T23:00:26","modified_gmt":"2025-03-09T04:00:26","slug":"no-sound-argument-against-joel-embiid-making-hall-of-fame","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/2025\/03\/08\/no-sound-argument-against-joel-embiid-making-hall-of-fame\/","title":{"rendered":"No Sound Argument Against Joel Embiid Making Hall Of Fame"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There are some players that <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/2024\/07\/24\/joel-embiid-makes-most-hated-claim-heres-it-may-be-true\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">people just love to hate<\/a> and Philadelphia 76ers center <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/e\/embiijo01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Joel Embiid<\/a> is one of them.<\/p>\n<p>He\u2019s earned plenty of sympathy after the realization that he might have sustained <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/2025\/03\/02\/joel-embiid-retirement\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">a career-ending injury<\/a>. As the saying goes, \u2018you don\u2019t know what you have until it\u2019s gone.\u2019 For NBA fans that have been outspoken critics of Embiid, that couldn\u2019t be any more true. However, he\u2019s always going to have detractors.<\/p>\n<h2>No Sound Argument Against Joel Embiid Making Hall Of Fame<\/h2>\n<p>The man responsible for <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/2024\/11\/06\/sixers-response-joel-embiid-altercation-lead-split\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">writing an unethical article<\/a> about him only a few months ago is one of them. In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com\/nba\/philadelphia-76ers\/sixers-analysis\/joel-embiid-hall-of-famer-nba-experts-weigh-in\/652756\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">his latest attempt<\/a> to dress the star big man down, The Philadelphia Inquirer\u2019s Marcus Hayes questions Embiid\u2019s chances of being inducted into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame. Though eventually stating Embiid would likely get in, Hayes paints a picture of the soon-to-be 31-year-old as a weak candidate:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Considering the low bar to get into the Basketball Hall of Fame, certainly, with his All-Star appearances and MVP award, he deserves to be in the Hall. However, if it were a more demanding Hall of Fame, such as baseball, then I think his brief career, combined with his postseason failures, his decreased postseason production, his poor character, and his abysmal professionalism and leadership would disqualify him for most voters.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The palpable sense of bitterness isn\u2019t lost on anyone. Hayes, who was accosted by Embiid in response to what he wrote about a late relative, has an axe to grind. He clearly didn\u2019t like or respect him before their confrontation and nothing has changed since. His unprofessional behavior isn\u2019t the focus though.<\/p>\n<p>Hayes might have a personal grudge against Embiid but he\u2019s not the only person who doesn\u2019t think he\u2019s worthy of the Hall of Fame. In that same Q&amp;A, NBC Sports Philadelphia Sixers analyst Marc Jackson says that he believes \u201cthe length of his career\u201d will keep him out. Former NBC Sports Philadelphia Sixers play-by-play broadcaster Marc Zumoff agrees \u201cif Joel was forced to retire today.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>With that being said, there\u2019s no way Embiid wouldn\u2019t make the cut. Though there isn\u2019t a list of minimal requirements, he\u2019s done enough in his career to be enshrined, objectively. No matter how anyone feels about him, that\u2019s what matters.<\/p>\n<h3>MVP, MVP, MVP!<\/h3>\n<p>As Zumoff and others stated, every NBA MVP has made the Hall of Fame.<\/p>\n<p>Embiid, who won a controversial NBA MVP race back in 2023, already has that feather in his cap. He was the NBA MVP runner-up in the two preceding seasons, underscoring his dominance. In those three seasons, the former No. 3 pick averaged 30.9 points, 10.8 rebounds, 3.8 assists, 1.5 blocks, and 1.0 steal per game.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Joel Embiid has the most points + rebounds + assists + blocks + steals per minute on record in NBA history.<\/p>\n<p>A big loss for the NBA, not just the Sixers. <a  href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/oUXMdtX9wi\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">pic.twitter.com\/oUXMdtX9wi<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 HoopsHype (@hoopshype) <a  href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hoopshype\/status\/1895853143247962246?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">March 1, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Had his competition during that stretch not been Denver Nuggets center <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/j\/jokicni01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Nikola Jokic<\/a>, who\u2019s become <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/2025\/03\/08\/nikola-jokic-nba-records\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">a legendary player<\/a>, it\u2019s fair to say he would have more than one NBA MVP award. However, just because he was outshined by Jokic doesn\u2019t mean he wasn\u2019t stellar. In fact, his NBA MVP award is actually even more impressive when considering who he had to outplay.<\/p>\n<h3>What About\u2026<\/h3>\n<p>Moving on, Embiid is also a seven-time All-Star selection. There are 13 players in the Hall of Fame who don\u2019t have <a href=\"https:\/\/www.statmuse.com\/nba\/ask\/least-all-star-appearances-for-hall-of-famer\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a single All-Star selection<\/a>. Another nine Hall of Fame inductees have fewer than three All-Star selections. Thus, he would seem to have the edge here as well.<\/p>\n<p>To address Hayes, Jackson, and Zumoff\u2019s comments about the length of Embiid\u2019s career, one can look at former Houston Rockets center <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/m\/mingya01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Yao Ming<\/a>. Like Embiid, Ming\u2019s career was hampered by injuries. As a result, the Shanghai native played just eight seasons.<\/p>\n<p>There are 21 other Hall of Fame players who <a href=\"https:\/\/www.statmuse.com\/nba\/ask\/least-seasons-played-by-hall-of-famer\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">played fewer than the nine seasons<\/a> that Embiid has. This includes players like former Denver Nuggets wing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/t\/thompda01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">David Thompson<\/a>, who never won an NBA championship either.<\/p>\n<p>Ultimately, there\u2019s no objective reason to keep Embiid out of the Hall of Fame.<\/p>\n<h3>In The End\u2026<\/h3>\n<p>Even complaints about his character don\u2019t make much of a difference.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/b\/barklch01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Charles Barkley<\/a>, a Hall of Famer, once <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/hqTk9F5crqY\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">threw a man<\/a> through a window. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/k\/kiddja01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jason Kidd<\/a>, a Hall of Fame player-turned-coach, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/b\/barklch01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">had numerous off-court incidents<\/a>. Then there\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/m\/malonka01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Karl Malone<\/a>, a Hall of Famer who had one of the most impressive careers, but <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160304093706\/http:\/\/articles.philly.com\/1998-07-23\/sports\/25738724_1_karl-malone-cheryl-and-daryl-bonita-ford\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a nauseating personal life<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s pretty easy to make an argument that Embiid was no better than Barkley and no worse than Kidd nor Malone.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a9 Soobum Im-Imagn Images<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are some players that people just love to hate and Philadelphia 76ers center Joel Embiid is one of them. He\u2019s earned plenty of sympathy after the realization that he might have sustained a career-ending injury. As the saying goes, \u2018you don\u2019t know what you have until it\u2019s gone.\u2019 For NBA fans that have been [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5008,"featured_media":127619,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_lmt_disableupdate":"no","_lmt_disable":"","sfio_featured_image":false,"sfio_embed_code":"","_ef_editorial_meta_date_first-draft-date":"","_ef_editorial_meta_paragraph_assignment":"","_ef_editorial_meta_checkbox_needs-photo":"","_ef_editorial_meta_number_word-count":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[13,1608,62],"tags":[4300,1006,2096,218,267,1190,3694,1200],"class_list":["post-127604","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-76ers","category-basketball","category-nba","tag-basketball-hall-of-fame","tag-charles-barkley","tag-david-thompson","tag-jason-kidd","tag-joel-embiid","tag-karl-malone","tag-naismith-memorial-basketball-hall-of-fame","tag-yao-ming"],"modified_by":"Quenton S Albertie","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/127604","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5008"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=127604"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/127604\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":127620,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/127604\/revisions\/127620"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/127619"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=127604"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=127604"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=127604"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}