{"id":106520,"date":"2024-11-12T08:39:23","date_gmt":"2024-11-12T13:39:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/?p=106520"},"modified":"2024-11-12T08:39:23","modified_gmt":"2024-11-12T13:39:23","slug":"nets-dennis-schroder-not-all-in-rebuild-for-good-reason","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/2024\/11\/12\/nets-dennis-schroder-not-all-in-rebuild-for-good-reason\/","title":{"rendered":"Nets Leader Is Not All-In On Rebuild For Good Reason"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Brooklyn Nets guard <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/s\/schrode01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dennis Schroder<\/a> isn\u2019t interested in losing games just to joust for draft position. A process known as \u201ctanking,\u201d it\u2019s a common method for teams who want <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/2024\/11\/12\/nets-rumored-to-trade-key-players\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">to expedite the rebuilding process<\/a>. However, it\u2019s not an exact science, and many teams will go through several frustrating seasons before seeing the type of returns they want.<\/p>\n<p>As a 12-year NBA veteran who has <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/2024\/10\/28\/nets-dennis-schroder-doubles-down-desire-to-make-brooklyn-home\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">played for seven teams<\/a>, Schroder knows that as well as anybody.<\/p>\n<h2>Nets Leader Dennis Schroder Is Not All-In On Rebuild For Good Reason<\/h2>\n<p>\u201cFor me, rebuilding, I\u2019ve seen <a href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2024\/11\/11\/sports\/dennis-schroders-best-basketball-could-potentially-land-him-off-nets\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a stat the last 15 years<\/a> whoever did the rebuilding stuff and wanted to lose, nobody got anything out of it,\u201d Schroder says, per the New York Post\u2019s Brian Lewis. \u201cAt the end of the day, we can rebuild having young guys&#8230; But we still want to win in the process, going through it. We still want to win and still want to be a playoff team if we can.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat should be the goal for everybody who\u2019s playing in the league or whoever plays basketball, making the playoffs,\u201d he continues. And even though we\u2019re young, we\u2019ve got a good mix. \u2026 The young guys are buying into (a playoff mindset)&#8230; And it\u2019s something great we want to accomplish that we compete every single game&#8230;\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>Metadata Backs Him Up<\/h3>\n<p>It\u2019s unclear what stat Schroder was referencing.<\/p>\n<p>A few individuals have attempted to quantify the success of a rebuild longitudinally, but typically within the bounds of three to five years. Some have taken a more holistic approach. FR Analytics data analysts Hugo Mayca and Damien Blagojevic took a more holistic approach, going back to 2004 to see how long it took a team to go from \u201ctanking\u201d to a \u201ccontender.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Here\u2019s an example of a <a  href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/simulation?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">#simulation<\/a>. You can see the states a <a  href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/NBA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">#NBA<\/a> team would go through to rise from the bottom of the standings to becoming a contender over the years. <a  href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/tbw1EvToWj\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">pic.twitter.com\/tbw1EvToWj<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Hugo Mayca (@fr_analytics) <a  href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/fr_analytics\/status\/1848306058416075071?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">October 21, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Their study shows that it takes a team about 10 years to make the leap.<\/p>\n<p>Based on that metadata, one could argue that Schroder is right to believe that rebuilding teams don\u2019t have much to show for their efforts, at least for a while.<\/p>\n<h3>Case-By-Case Analysis Does Too<\/h3>\n<p>Case-by-case analysis tends to supports Schroder\u2019s suggestion as well.<\/p>\n<p>Since they traded Hall of Fame guard <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/b\/billuch01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Chauncey Billups<\/a> to the Denver Nuggets in 2008-09, the Detroit Pistons have been .500 or in <em>14<\/em> of the last 15 seasons. In 2023-24, they lost <em>68<\/em> games, a franchise record.<\/p>\n<p>After trading Hall of Fame guard <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/i\/iversal01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Allen Iverson<\/a> to the Denver Nuggets in 2006-07, the Philadelphia 76ers were .500 or below in <em>nine<\/em> of the next 10 seasons. In their 76 year history, they\u2019ve only had six seasons losing or more 60 games and half of them occurred during the 2010s.<\/p>\n<p>In 2020, the Washington Wizards moved on from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/w\/walljo01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">John Wall<\/a>. Likely to have his jersey retired by the Wizards, Wall is their all-time leader in assists and steals, and ranks fourth in franchise history in points. Washington hasn\u2019t had a winning season since 2018-19, the last time he took the court for them.<\/p>\n<p>The San Antonio Spurs have had a losing record in the last six seasons as well, which coincides with seven-time All-Star <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/a\/aldrila01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">LaMarcus Aldridge<\/a>\u2019s last healthy season. Aldridge is top-five in Portland Trail Blazers history in points (3rd), blocks (4th), and rebounds (1st). He ranks top-10 in Spurs history in points per game (19.5) and blocks per game (1.3).<\/p>\n<p>These aren\u2019t the only teams that have been in rebuild mode since then. Nonetheless, this helps to underscore just how difficult it is to go from the bottom to the top.<\/p>\n<h3>Who Are The Nets (Really) Replacing?<\/h3>\n<p>The Nets\u2019 rebuild didn\u2019t really start after they traded <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/b\/bridgmi01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Mikal Bridges<\/a> to the New York Knicks, though he has the seventh-highest scoring average (21.2 points per game) in franchise history. They were put in that state after trading <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/d\/duranke01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Kevin Durant<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/i\/irvinky01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Kyrie Irving<\/a> in the span of a week.<\/p>\n<p>Durant and Irving rank second (29.0) and fourth (27.1) in Nets history in points per game, respectively. Though Irving\u2019s personal beliefs led to an untenable situation there, there\u2019s no denying that he was force to be reckoned with individually and that he and Durant are both Hall of Fame talents. Had they remained in Brooklyn, they would\u2019ve kept the Nets in playoff contention.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not a coincidence that Irving, already an NBA champion, helped lead the Dallas Mavericks to the NBA Finals just a few months ago. Durant, a two-time NBA Finals MVP, is on a bonafide championship-contender in Phoenix. Meanwhile, with Bridges, Brooklyn was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.statmuse.com\/nba\/ask\/nets-record-with-mikal-bridges\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">44-65<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>So, it\u2019s not Bridges that they have to replace, but Durant and Irving. An exceptional shot-maker, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/t\/thomaca02.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cam Thomas<\/a> is doing his best Irving impression, but his scoring average over the past two seasons (22.7) is closer to Bridges\u2019 than Irving\u2019s. If he\u2019s really <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/2024\/10\/25\/what-no-cam-thomas-extension-means-for-the-nets\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">in their future plans<\/a>, he probably needs help that Schroder, nor <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/j\/johnsca02.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cameron Johnson<\/a>, nor <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/c\/claxtni01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Nic Claxton<\/a> can provide.<\/p>\n<h3>Reasons To Be Hopeful<\/h3>\n<p>With their stockpile of draft picks, the Nets may be able <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/nba\/comments\/13w3z6n\/what_i_learned_about_the_nba_draft_after\/?rdt=64253\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">to locate that caliber of player<\/a> quicker than another rebuilding team could. The 2025 NBA Draft has <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/2024\/10\/30\/prospects-who-could-be-the-1st-overall-pick-over-cooper-flagg\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">multiple star prospects<\/a>. The 2026 NBA Draft will be headlined by what could be <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/2024\/10\/29\/top-2025-recruit-aj-dybantsa-cooper-flagg-ace-bailey\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">a generational talent<\/a> and he\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/2024\/11\/02\/ohio-top-3-recruit-darryn-peterson-lebron-james-commits-kansas\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">not the only head-turner<\/a> in his class.<\/p>\n<p>They could also use their picks to target a player like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/a\/antetgi01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Giannis Antetokounmpo<\/a>\u00a0or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/b\/butleji01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jimmy Butler<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Both Antetokounmpo and Butler <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/2024\/11\/01\/trade-rumor-will-superstar-be-traded-nets\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">have been linked to<\/a> the Nets over the past few months, appearing to have <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/2024\/09\/12\/nets-ben-simmons-reason-jimmy-butler-very-interested\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">genuine interest in joining<\/a> the franchise. Though the idea may seem far-fetched, stars like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/l\/leonaka01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Kawhi Leonard<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/players\/g\/georgpa01.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Paul George<\/a> have shown that some players want to create history in a place that doesn\u2019t have much of it. Irving signed with the Nets for that same reason, with the franchise not achieving much of consequence after moving from New Jersey to Brooklyn.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Brooklyn Nets guard Dennis Schroder isn\u2019t interested in losing games just to joust for draft position. A process known as \u201ctanking,\u201d it\u2019s a common method for teams who want to expedite the rebuilding process. However, it\u2019s not an exact science, and many teams will go through several frustrating seasons before seeing the type of returns [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5008,"featured_media":106531,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_lmt_disableupdate":"no","_lmt_disable":"","sfio_featured_image":false,"sfio_embed_code":"","_ef_editorial_meta_date_first-draft-date":"","_ef_editorial_meta_paragraph_assignment":"","_ef_editorial_meta_checkbox_needs-photo":"","_ef_editorial_meta_number_word-count":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[6,1608,62,556,3,4721],"tags":[122,4069,115,252,306,142,310,69,406,410,1484,98,4774],"class_list":["post-106520","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-nets","category-basketball","category-nba","category-nba-draft","category-news","category-trade-rumors","tag-allen-iverson","tag-cam-thomas","tag-chauncey-billups","tag-dennis-schroder","tag-giannis-antetokounmpo","tag-jimmy-butler","tag-john-wall","tag-kevin-durant","tag-kyrie-irving","tag-lamarcus-aldridge","tag-mikal-bridges","tag-nba-draft","tag-rumors"],"modified_by":"Quenton S Albertie","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/106520","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5008"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=106520"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/106520\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/106531"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=106520"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=106520"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/basketball\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=106520"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}