{"id":14645,"date":"2018-08-24T19:55:47","date_gmt":"2018-08-24T23:55:47","guid":{"rendered":"lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/\/?p=14645"},"modified":"2018-08-24T19:55:47","modified_gmt":"2018-08-24T23:55:47","slug":"revisiting-the-r-a-dickey-now-noah-syndergaard-trade","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/2018\/08\/24\/revisiting-the-r-a-dickey-now-noah-syndergaard-trade\/","title":{"rendered":"Revisiting the R.A. Dickey (now Noah Syndergaard) Trade"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In an offseason that was packed with important players switching teams &#8212; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/p\/pujolal01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Albert Pujols<\/a> joining the Los Angeles Angels, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/p\/papeljo01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jonathan Papelbon<\/a> signing with the Philadelphia Phillies, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/d\/darviyu01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Yu Darvish<\/a> entering the MLB \u2013 it was a trade that may have been the steal of the 2012 winter meetings. On December 17, 2012, the New York Mets sent righthanded pitcher and reigning <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/y\/youngcy01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cy Young<\/a> Award winner R.A. Dickey, along with catchers <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/t\/tholejo01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Josh Thole<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/n\/nickemi01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Mike Nickeas<\/a> to the Toronto Blue Jays.\u00a0They got four players back in the trade: catchers Travis d\u2019Arnaud and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/b\/buckjo01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">John Buck<\/a>, right-handed pitcher Noah Syndergaard and outfielder <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/register\/player.fcgi?id=becerr000wui&amp;utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Wuilmer Becerra.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>While there was some hype around Syndergaard as a first-round pick, most expected him to take <a href=\"https:\/\/mlb.nbcsports.com\/2012\/12\/17\/blue-jays-mets-finalize-seven-player-r-a-dickey-trade\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">some time<\/a>\u00a0to get to the majors &#8212; it was d\u2019Arnaud who was the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nydailynews.com\/sports\/baseball\/mets\/mets-play-catch-arnaud-dickey-trade-article-1.1222442\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">big name<\/a>\u00a0in the deal. That has certainly changed in the last five years, eight months, and six days.<\/p>\n<h2>Revisiting the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/d\/dicker.01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">R.A. Dickey<\/a> (now <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/s\/syndeno01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Noah Syndergaard<\/a>) Trade<\/h2>\n<h3>Why the Mets Made the Trade<\/h3>\n<p>Though they had a team option on Dickey for 2013, \u00a0they weren\u2019t getting closer to a deal with him, who told the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nydailynews.com\/sports\/baseball\/mets\/traded-dickey-wishes-didn-spread-holiday-jeer-article-1.1223287\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">New York Daily News<\/a>\u00a0the Mets first offer was a two-year, $14 million deal. There had only been <a href=\"https:\/\/metsmerizedonline.com\/2012\/11\/from-left-field-only-3-teams-have-traded-a-reigning-cy-young-winner.html\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">three<\/a> reigning Cy Young-winners traded before Dickey, but the Mets weren\u2019t willing to spend the extra money to keep him around. His eventual contract with the Jays was a three-year, $29 million deal \u2013 a 38% increase in average annual salary.<\/p>\n<h3>Why the Blue Jays Made the Trade<\/h3>\n<p>In the bloodbath that is the American League East, the Jays saw not just a pitcher who would help anchor their rotation along with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/j\/johnsjo09.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Josh Johnson<\/a> and Sean Marcum, but a Cy Young winner who could help push them past the Yankees and Red Sox into the playoffs. To top it off, they didn\u2019t have to give up a ton to get him. While d\u2019Arnaud was the headline player in the deal \u2013 he was the number 11 prospect according to <a href=\"http:\/\/toronto.bluejays.mlb.com\/mlb\/prospects\/watch\/y2012\/index.jsp?c_id=tor\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">MLB Pipeline<\/a> &#8212; \u00a0Buck, Syndergaard, and Becerra were mostly throw-in players. Syndergaard was the number 95 prospect on the MLB.com 2012 pre-season rankings, and though he had moved up to <a href=\"http:\/\/toronto.bluejays.mlb.com\/mlb\/prospects\/watch\/y2012\/index.jsp?c_id=tor\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">83<\/a> at the time of the trade, the Jays did not think he could help them soon enough.<\/p>\n<h3>The Impact for the Jays<\/h3>\n<p>For the first nine years of R.A Dickey\u2019s career &#8212; before he left for the Mets &#8212; he struggled in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/d\/dicker.01.shtml#2001-2009-sum:pitching_standard\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">American <\/a>League. That didn\u2019t change when he joined the Blue Jays. In his first year with Toronto, the Nashville native had a 4.21 ERA \u2013 nearly a run and a half higher than his Cy Young season just a year earlier. Dickey also gave up career highs in earned runs and home runs.<\/p>\n<p>Josh Thole continued his career with the Jays where he left it with the Mets. Thole was a player who was never quite good enough for the MLB, but was a solid Triple-A level player. In the 2013 season he played 45 games for the Jays. He hit .175 with a .497 OPS, which contrasted starkly with his .322 average in 41 games with their AAA affiliate. He would split time between the MLB and Triple-A for the Jays until 2016 when his contract was not renewed. Thole has not played in the majors since.\u00a0Mike Nickeas didn\u2019t have an MLB at bat for the rest of his career.<\/p>\n<h3>The Impact for the Mets<\/h3>\n<p>Travis d\u2019Arnaud hit a speed bump in 2013 when he suffered a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nj.com\/mets\/index.ssf\/2016\/04\/a_look_at_travis_darnauds_injury_history_with_the.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">fractured foot<\/a>, but he returned from the injury and made the jump to the majors. Though he hit just .202 with a single home run and three doubles in 31 games, he hit .304 with 10 extra-base hits in 19 games for Triple-A Las Vegas. D\u2019Arnaud has had health issues throughout his career but has maintained his spot on the Mets since the 2013 season.<\/p>\n<p>John Buck didn\u2019t have a major impact in 2013. He was shipped out of New York near the end of the season to the Pittsburgh Pirates. The catcher hit .215 with a .652 OPS and 15 home runs in 101 games as the primary starter for the Mets.<\/p>\n<h3>Noah Syndergaard<\/h3>\n<p>Ok, here\u2019s where things get interesting. Noah Syndergaard rocketed up the MLB.com Pipeline rankings following his move to the Mets. He went from ranked 83 to 29 by the <a href=\"http:\/\/toronto.bluejays.mlb.com\/mlb\/prospects\/watch\/y2013\/index.jsp?c_id=tor\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">2013 preseason<\/a> and was 12 by the end of the 2013 season. He went 3-3 with a 3.11 ERA in Advanced-A St. Lucie before being called up to Double-A, where the righty pitcher stepped his game up further. Syndergaard was 6-1 with a 3.00 ERA and 69 strikeouts in 54 innings for AA Binghamton.<\/p>\n<p>The rest is history. Syndergaard made his MLB debut in 2015 and pitched better than he had the year before after an up-and-down 2014 in Triple-A. He was 9-7 with a 3.24 ERA, 166 strikeouts, and was fourth in the Rookie of the Year Award voting. The Mansfield, Texas native has played in an All-Star Game, been to a World Series, and is 33-21 with a 3.00 ERA, 1.13 WHIP and 10.1 strikeouts per nine innings in his <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/s\/syndeno01.shtml\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">major league career<\/a>. \u2018Thor\u2019 has transformed the trade from the R.A Dickey trade to the Noah Syndergaard trade.<\/p>\n<p>Wuilmer Becerra was just 17 when the trade happened, and has fluctuated between high and Single-A since <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/register\/player.fcgi?id=becerr000wui\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">2015<\/a>. The right fielder had a solid year last season at Advanced-A St. Lucie where he hit .267. However, he has little power in his swing, hitting just 22 home runs in nearly 500 games in the minors. It seems unlikely he will play in the majors, but at 23 years young, it\u2019s hard to say impossible.<\/p>\n<h3>Who Won?<\/h3>\n<p>Is this even a real question? No, it\u2019s not even close. The Mets won the trade and they won it by a mile. Even if d\u2019Arnaud didn\u2019t play a single game in the MLB, what Noah Syndergaard has done alone is enough to swing this deal in the Mets favour. Dickey\u2019s terrible time as a Jay would make most trades for him hard to justify, let alone the one that actually happened. METS METS METS.<\/p>\n<h3>Another Trade?<\/h3>\n<p>While <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/d\/degroja01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jacob deGrom<\/a> and Syndergaard were the targets of trade rumours earlier in the season as a chance to rebuild quickly, prior to the trade deadline the Mets front office told SNY\u2019s Andy Martino they had moved away from the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sny.tv\/mets\/news\/mets-have-moved-past-idea-of-trading-degrom-syndergaard\/284364018\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">idea<\/a>. This means that Syndergaard is unlikely to be moved this season, but if the Mets get an offer similar to the haul that the Tampa Bay Rays got for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/a\/archech01.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&amp;utm_source=direct&amp;utm_medium=linker-\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Chris Archer<\/a>, it would be hard to turn down.<\/p>\n<p>Main Photo:<br \/>\n<a id=\"yyMHMth6RQ96jUjI6N3A1Q\" class=\"gie-single\" style=\"color: #a7a7a7; text-decoration: none; font-weight: normal !important; border: none; display: inline-block;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.gettyimages.com\/detail\/1015776348\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Embed from Getty Images<\/a><script>window.gie=window.gie||function(c){(gie.q=gie.q||[]).push(c)};gie(function(){gie.widgets.load({id:'yyMHMth6RQ96jUjI6N3A1Q',sig:'gyC2JISkX15f770NO_qDfU7uFniNwvmUhD72TcGLxpk=',w:'594px',h:'482px',items:'1015776348',caption: true ,tld:'com',is360: false })});<\/script><script src='\/\/embed-cdn.gettyimages.com\/widgets.js' charset='utf-8' async><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In an offseason that was packed with important players switching teams &#8212; Albert Pujols joining the Los Angeles Angels, Jonathan Papelbon signing with the Philadelphia Phillies, and Yu Darvish entering the MLB \u2013 it was a trade that may have been the steal of the 2012 winter meetings. 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