{"id":108941,"date":"2025-10-29T18:31:13","date_gmt":"2025-10-29T22:31:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/?p=108941"},"modified":"2025-10-29T18:31:13","modified_gmt":"2025-10-29T22:31:13","slug":"50-years-ago-incredible-prince-king","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/2025\/10\/29\/50-years-ago-incredible-prince-king\/","title":{"rendered":"50 Years Ago, an Incredible PR Blunder: Pirates Fire Prince, King"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>October 30, 1975: In a public relations blunder that reverberates today, Pirates broadcasters Bob Prince and Nellie King were fired. It was a joint decision by the Pittsburgh Pirates, KDKA Radio, which carried the Pirates&#8217; games, and Iron City Beer, the main sponsor for the broadcasts. It showed a shocking unawareness of the Pittsburgh landscape.<\/p>\n<h2>50 Years Ago: Pirates Fire Bob Prince and Nellie King<\/h2>\n<p>Prince joined the Pirates broadcast team as the No. 2 man behind Rosey Rowswell in 1948. He became the Voice of the Pirates when Rowswell passed away in 1955. King, who pitched for the Pirates from 1954-57 under the name <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/k\/kingne01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Nelson King<\/a>, became Prince\u2019s broadcast partner in 1967.<\/p>\n<p>The broadcasts had a Prince and a King, but it was Prince who was king in Pittsburgh. Born in Los Angeles in 1916, Prince attended college at Pitt, Stanford, and Oklahoma, from which he graduated. He was a varsity letterman in swimming at Pitt and Oklahoma. Prince was smart enough to attend Harvard Law School for the 1939-40 academic year, but not motivated enough to stay past that year. However, it wasn\u2019t a total loss. At Harvard Law, he befriended fellow student Thomas P. Johnson, who would become instrumental in Prince\u2019s broadcasting career.<\/p>\n<h3>Beginnings<\/h3>\n<p>On April 15, 1941, <em>The Pittsburgh Press<\/em> announced a \u201cnew sports program\u201d hosted by Prince and Beckley Smith on KQV Radio. No mention was made of Prince\u2019s past with Pitt or of anything else regarding Prince. Soon, Prince was all over town serving as emcee at various banquets and appearing in charity basketball games. The local media delighted in reporting on his numerous parking and speeding tickets while joking about his thin physique.<\/p>\n<p>But he had an ally in <em>Pittsburgh Post-Gazette<\/em> sports editor Al Abrams, whose daily \u201cSidelights on Sports\u201d column was essential morning reading despite not being especially well-written. Abrams praised Prince for \u201cdoing an excellent job of sportscasting\u201d on his radio show. In 1948, when Prince replaced Jack Craddock as Rowswell\u2019s sidekick to little fanfare, Abrams predicted he \u201cwill do an excellent job.\u201d Prince got the gig thanks to his Harvard Law pal Johnson, who became one of the Pirates\u2019 owners in 1946.<\/p>\n<h3>A Gnat\u2019s Eyelash<\/h3>\n<p>Rowswell entertained fans with a language of his own that only Pittsburghers understood. One day, legendary Brooklyn Dodgers broadcaster Red Barber suggested that he and Rowswell trade jobs for the first inning of a Dodgers-Pirates game. The listeners in Brooklyn had no idea what Rowswell was saying. (Prince pulled a similar stunt in 1972 with Montreal Expos broadcaster <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/r\/raymocl01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Claude Raymond<\/a>, who broadcast a half inning in French to Pittsburgh television viewers.) Following Rowswell\u2019s lead, Prince developed his own set of colorful expressions. \u201cKiss it good-bye!\u201d became his signature home run call. Sometimes he\u2019d blurt that out prematurely; listeners could only chuckle when he tried to save the moment with a cry of \u201cKiss it off the wall!\u201d On a close play on the bases, the runner was safe or out \u201cby a gnat\u2019s eyelash.\u201d A gap shot on Three Rivers Stadium\u2019s artificial surface was \u201ca bug loose on the rug.\u201d He was an unabashed rooter.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Green Weenies and Babushkas<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Prince was as famous for his crazy stunts as he was for his broadcasting. In 1957, at the Chase Hotel in St. Louis, the former collegiate swimmer dove from his third-floor window into the swimming pool, egged on by Pirates third baseman <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/f\/freesge02.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Gene Freese<\/a>. In 1966, Prince picked up on Pirates trainer Danny Whelan pointing a \u201cgreen weenie\u201d (a plastic pickle that rattled) to hex opponents. Soon, green weenies were manufactured and sold, and the Forbes Field faithful, transistor radios in hand, would await Prince\u2019s instructions. On one occasion, the Dodgers\u2019 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/d\/drysddo01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Don Drysdale<\/a> stepped off the mound because he couldn\u2019t pitch with all the rattling distracting him.<\/p>\n<p>The Pirates\u2019 attendance was suffering in 1975, even though they were on their way to their fifth National League East Division title in six years. The Pirates were at a loss as far as what to do about it. Bob Smizik was the Pirates beat reporter for <em>The Pittsburgh Press<\/em> from 1972-77. He told author Dan Joseph in <em>Behind the Yoi<\/em>, \u201cMarketing was something the Pirates never heard of or chose not to employ.\u201d Prince to the rescue. The men in this town aren\u2019t stepping up, he told his radio audience, so it\u2019s up to the women. He urged them to pack the stadium and wave their babushkas (a head scarf worn by Polish and Russian women, still prevalent in a town not far removed from the mass immigration of the early 20th century). Prince called it \u201cBabushka Power.\u201d Attendance increased by almost 160,000 from 1974.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Close Encounters of the Gunner Kind<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>One-time broadcast partner <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/w\/woodsji01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jim Woods<\/a> nicknamed Prince \u201cThe Gunner,\u201d reportedly for his fast-talking delivery. Prince later revealed that the name stemmed from a spring training incident when he offered to buy a woman a drink at a bar. Her jealous husband pointed a gun at his head. Prince insisted he was just being friendly.<\/p>\n<p>Along the way, Prince described some of the greatest moments in Pirates history. There was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/l\/longda02.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dale Long<\/a> hitting a home run in eight consecutive games in 1956. There was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/h\/haddiha01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Harvey Haddix<\/a>\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/2024\/12\/17\/pirates-pitching-top-10-part-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">12 perfect innings<\/a> against the Milwaukee Braves on May 26, 1959, only to lose the game in the unlucky 13th. Prince called no-hitters by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/c\/chambcl01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cliff Chambers<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/m\/moosebo01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bob Moose<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/e\/ellisdo01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dock Ellis<\/a>, the latter while <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/2025\/06\/12\/dock-ellis-lsd-no-hitter\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">under the influence of LSD<\/a>. He described the World Series championship seasons of <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/2024\/10\/08\/pirates-1960-world-series-forbes-field-wall\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">1960<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/2024\/10\/21\/ohtani-judge-world-series-clemente-robinson\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">1971<\/a>. As was the custom at the time, Prince called both Series on the national NBC television and radio broadcasts. Each time, he conducted the clubhouse interviews after Game 7. Each time, he forgot he was on national TV and was supposed to be impartial, or maybe he didn\u2019t care. The hilariously chaotic 1960 clubhouse interviews are well worth five minutes and 44 seconds of your time.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"1960 Pittsburgh Pirates World Series Champions Locker Room Celebration\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/m_fD5xfG9AI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h3>Nellie<\/h3>\n<p>Meanwhile, King\u2019s four-year Pirates career included 95 games, of which four were starts. He posted a 7-5 record with a 3.58 ERA, six saves, and 1.402 WHIP. On the air, he was often dismissive of his major league career, but his 109 ERA+ and 3.79 FIP suggest he was at least above average. King, a right-hander who stood tall at six feet and six inches, had an amazing run in the minors from 1953-54, during which he was 31-8 with a 2.16 ERA and 1.088 WHIP. \u00a0During 1954 spring training, Pirates manager <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/h\/haneyfr01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Fred Haney<\/a> told Chester L. Smith of <em>The Press<\/em>, \u201c[King] makes pitching look easy. Soon as he gets ripe for us we\u2019re going to be happy.\u201d Unfortunately, little went right for the Pirates of the 1950s.<\/p>\n<h3>Fired<\/h3>\n<p>Pirates fans were blindsided when the October 30, 1975, headline in <em>The Press<\/em> declared, \u201cPrince, King Fired as Pirates Broadcasters.\u201d King told <em>The Press<\/em> that the pair was blamed for declining attendance figures, despite the increase of 1975 being almost entirely attributable to Prince\u2019s Babushka Power promotion, which, by the way, didn&#8217;t cost the Pirates a cent. Six days later, Edward Wallis, regional vice president for Westinghouse Broadcasting, said it was Prince\u2019s tendency toward storytelling that was the reason for the dismissal. When <em>The Press<\/em> asked Wallis what he was looking for, he said, \u201cAccurate, consistent, uninterrupted accounts of baseball games.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Public backlash was instant. Fans planned to boycott a designated 1976 game in protest. The KDKA switchboard operator took 657 calls from 5:30 PM to 11:30 PM once Pittsburghers read of the firings, with an estimated 95 percent against. \u00a0Allegheny County Commissioner Thomas J. Foerster chimed in, calling it \u201ca disaster\u201d and a \u201cserious error.\u201d Four Pirates wives signed a joint letter to the editor in protest. Prince reportedly begged to be allowed to stay on.<\/p>\n<p>King recalled the firing with bitterness as he related it to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jimobriensportsauthor.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">author Jim O\u2019Brien<\/a> in <em>We Had \u2018Em All the Way<\/em>. \u201c[Pirates general manager Joe L. Brown] told me that Prince was having trouble with KDKA, and that he was probably going to go, too. Then he said that sometimes water splashes onto other people. I said that was a helluva reason to lose a job.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>King continued, \u201cI told him I was sorry to hear that because I felt I had walked a lot of extra miles for the ballclub. . . I told him that he really disappointed me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>When King told Wallis he needed the job to feed his family, Wallis laughed.<\/p>\n<h3>The Parade<\/h3>\n<p>Prince thought that his dismissal was also caused by some of his battles with KDKA. The station was allowing guests to sit in the broadcast booth during games. Some of them rooted loudly for the other team. Prince complained about it on the air. He wasn\u2019t above tweaking management, either. He would call into KDKA\u2019s morning radio show hosted by Jack Bogut daily. One day, while on the road, he was late calling. When he finally called in, he chastised the cheapskates at KDKA for not giving him a room with a phone, forcing him to find a pay phone (kids, ask your parents).<\/p>\n<p>Another radio personality who didn\u2019t mind tweaking KDKA was Jack Wheeler. Wheeler had a radio show on KDKA before moving on to WEEP in 1975, where he brought along his penchant for offbeat humor and his encyclopedic knowledge of jazz and swing. He organized a parade through downtown in support of Prince and King for November 5. Wallis probably choked on his caviar when he saw 10,000 supporters line the streets. Pirates <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/s\/stargwi01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Willie Stargell<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/g\/giustda01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dave Giusti<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/k\/kisonbr01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bruce Kison<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/r\/rookeji01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jim Rooker<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/o\/oliveal01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Al Oliver<\/a> spoke. Prince called Wallis \u201ctotally insensitive.\u201d County Commissioner William Hunt said, \u201c200 years ago, I don\u2019t think there was [sic] this many people on this spot defending Fort Duquesne.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>New Gigs<\/h3>\n<p>Unfortunately, the show of support didn\u2019t persuade Wallis. Attendance declined by more than 244,000 in 1976. Prince landed jobs broadcasting baseball for the Houston Astros and ABC-TV and hockey for the Pittsburgh Penguins. Duquesne University hired King as its sports publicity director. King also served as analyst alongside play-by-play announcer Ray Goss for Duquesne basketball games on radio. With <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/g\/groatdi01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-10-29_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dick Groat<\/a> serving in that same capacity for Pitt, Pittsburgh had an unusual situation with two former baseball players <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/2025\/10\/21\/pittsburgh-products-starred-in-both-baseball-and-basketball\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">broadcasting Division I basketball<\/a>. Prince\u2019s style was uniquely tailored to Pittsburgh baseball audiences, and his new gigs didn\u2019t last long. King worked at Duquesne for 24 years until his retirement.<\/p>\n<p>In 1979, ABC-TV carried the <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/2024\/05\/23\/pirates-1979-world-series\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">World Series<\/a> between the Pirates and the Baltimore Orioles. The local ABC affiliate, WTAE-TV, sent Prince to Baltimore to cover the Series along with sports anchors Bill Hillgrove and John Steigerwald. The temperature was a frigid 41 degrees at game time. Prince had an idea for the pregame report. He persuaded the hotel to open its outdoor pool. The three reporters sat by the pool in nothing but swim trunks, drinking cold beers and discussing the Series. It was classic Prince.<\/p>\n<h3>Comeback No. 1<\/h3>\n<p>The Pirates brought Prince back to be the play-by-play announcer for a couple of short-lived forays into cable TV in its infancy. Amazingly, in 1985, Pirates fans were still writing letters to the editor bitching about Prince\u2019s firing. With the team performing poorly and languishing in attendance amidst rumors it would be sold, on April 17, the Pirates announced that Prince would return to the radio booth, as the No. 3 man behind Lanny Frattare and Rooker. Prince was suffering from throat cancer at the time.<\/p>\n<p>It wasn\u2019t until May 3 that Prince was healthy enough to resume his duties. He took over the microphone in the fourth inning of a home game against the Dodgers. Astonishingly, in that inning, the offensively challenged Pirates scored nine runs on their way to a 16-2 victory. The 17,628 attendees at Three Rivers credited Prince for the rally, looking to the booth and chanting \u201cGun-ner, Gun-ner!\u201d Prince showed up for work one final time the next day, after which his health deteriorated further. He died on June 10, 1985.<\/p>\n<h3>Comeback No. 2<\/h3>\n<p>Three Rivers would be demolished to make way for PNC Park after the 2000 season. There were many events involving former Pirates scheduled, including a big sendoff at the end of the season. Before that season began, I was sick in bed with a stomach virus, listening to the Duquesne basketball game. As King was commenting on the action, my wife poked her head in and asked if I wanted anything. \u201cYeah,\u201d I said. \u201cI wanna hear Nellie call Pirates baseball again.\u201d She rolled her eyes and retreated down the steps.<\/p>\n<p>However, as soon as I felt better, I wrote an impassioned letter to Frattare. Basically, I said, <em>the Pirates are bringing everybody and their brother back, so why not Nellie? Nellie got screwed in 1975. Why not right a wrong and bring him back for a Nellie King Weekend, and let him call some of the action on the radio?<\/em> Frattare wrote back on February 15: \u201cGreat idea! I have passed your suggestion to my bosses.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Weeks went by without a Nellie King Weekend. Then, the Pirates announced he would return to broadcast the final game at Three Rivers. He was on the radio for the first five innings and the television for the remainder. O\u2019Brien told me that it made King very happy. The Pirates brought him back to broadcast an otherwise innocuous game against the Cincinnati Reds on September 18, 2002, so that he could become the only Pirates broadcaster to call a game at Forbes Field, Three Rivers Stadium, and PNC Park. He passed away in 2010.<\/p>\n<p>Main Photo Credits: Charles LeClaire-Imagn Images<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>October 30, 1975: In a public relations blunder that reverberates today, Pirates broadcasters Bob Prince and Nellie King were fired. It was a joint decision by the Pittsburgh Pirates, KDKA Radio, which carried the Pirates&#8217; games, and Iron City Beer, the main sponsor for the broadcasts. It showed a shocking unawareness of the Pittsburgh landscape. 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