{"id":106484,"date":"2025-08-28T21:14:55","date_gmt":"2025-08-29T01:14:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/?p=106484"},"modified":"2025-08-28T21:14:55","modified_gmt":"2025-08-29T01:14:55","slug":"pirates-cherington-interview-mlbtr","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/2025\/08\/28\/pirates-cherington-interview-mlbtr\/","title":{"rendered":"Pirates GM Cherington Discussed Hitting, Free Agents with MLBTR"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Pittsburgh Pirates general manager Ben Cherington recently granted a brief but wide-ranging interview to the MLB Trade Rumors podcast. Too often in his dealings with the Pittsburgh media, it seems as though he\u2019s trying to break former Pirates manager <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/t\/tracyji01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-08-28_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jim Tracy<\/a>\u2019s unofficial major league record for using the most words to say the least. Nevertheless, there were a couple of points that might interest Pirates fans. Specifically, why don\u2019t the Pirates develop hitters as well as they develop pitchers? Why has Cherington made no multi-year deals with free agents during his Pirates tenure? These will be discussed in this article, along with some pithy commentary. The entire interview, conducted by Darragh McDonald and running approximately 20 minutes, can be found <a href=\"https:\/\/www.mlbtraderumors.com\/2025\/08\/mlbtr-podcast-a-conversation-with-pirates-gm-ben-cherington-also-the-os-zack-wheeler-and-the-rangers.html\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_95486\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-95486\" style=\"width: 443px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-95486\" src=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2025\/02\/USATSI_22530259_168400885_lowres-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"With tweaks around the edges to a roster that finished last in the NL Central in 2024, how well did Ben Cherington do meeting the pressing needs of the Pirates this offseason?\" width=\"443\" height=\"295\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2025\/02\/USATSI_22530259_168400885_lowres-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2025\/02\/USATSI_22530259_168400885_lowres-1024x682.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2025\/02\/USATSI_22530259_168400885_lowres-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2025\/02\/USATSI_22530259_168400885_lowres-1536x1023.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2025\/02\/USATSI_22530259_168400885_lowres-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2025\/02\/USATSI_22530259_168400885_lowres-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2025\/02\/USATSI_22530259_168400885_lowres.jpg 1936w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 443px) 100vw, 443px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-95486\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Feb 15, 2024; Tampa, FL, USA; Pittsburgh Pirates general manager Ben Cherington talks with media at George M. Steinbrenner Field. Mandatory Credit: Kim Klement Neitzel-USA TODAY Sports<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h2>Pirates GM Cherington Gives Wide-Ranging Interview<\/h2>\n<p>Too often, Cherington is his own worst enemy from a public relations standpoint. He whiffs on softball questions designed to appease an angry fan base. He doesn\u2019t let his hair down and let fans see a side of him that might allow them to set aside their anger over how the team is run and find him at least somewhat likable. Before McDonald got to the tough questions, Cherington showed that he indeed has a sense of humor and a human side. It turns out Cherington reads MLB Trade Rumors and has even gotten ideas for transactions from the site. When McDonald jokingly suggested a finder\u2019s fee, Cherington quipped, \u201cWe\u2019re a small market team. Keep that in mind.\u201d For those fans interested in his dietary habits, he hasn\u2019t caught on to Pittsburgh\u2019s tradition of <a href=\"https:\/\/primantibros.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">french fries in sandwiches<\/a> or salads.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, Pirates fans want his head on a platter, and the Pirates can even hold the fries. Despite being buried in last place in Year 6 of a five-year rebuilding plan, Cherington continues to speak as though he expects to be Pirates GM for a long time yet. The jury is still out on that notion. More on that in a bit.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Pirates GM Ben Cherington on MLBTR&#8217;s influence in the industry. That and more on the latest episode of the podcast.<a  href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/ZuOtHpxLO0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/t.co\/ZuOtHpxLO0<\/a> <a  href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/zYOClF63DK\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">pic.twitter.com\/zYOClF63DK<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) <a  href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mlbtraderumors\/status\/1960839822987370783?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">August 27, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<h3>On Development of Hitters<\/h3>\n<p>Cherington agreed that it was \u201cfair\u201d to say that the Pirates have developed pitchers better than they\u2019ve developed hitters under his watch. Pirates fans might be surprised to know that it was never his intent to \u201cbe heavy on the pitching side.\u201d He said they put just as much effort into hitting as they do into pitching. After making some valid points about why hitting isn\u2019t as easy to develop as pitching, he said, \u201cI\u2019m actually really encouraged by the processes that we\u2019re putting in place\u201d in the past 18 months or so.<\/p>\n<p>As Pirates GM, Cherington has been a steadfast believer in his \u201cprocesses.\u201d The collective groan coming from the direction of western Pennsylvania is the Pirates fan base lamenting, \u201cHere we go again.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The Pirates&#8217; hitting has been better lately. Entering Thursday\u2019s game at St. Louis, they\u2019ve won seven of their last nine games. They\u2019ve scored 44 runs in those games. Even so, throughout the course of the season, one watches Pirates batters take hittable pitches and wonders whether their minds are too cluttered with information. <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/2024\/11\/13\/pirates-hire-matt-hague-hitting-coach\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">New hitting coach<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/h\/haguema01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-08-28_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Matt Hague<\/a> promised a <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/2025\/03\/21\/pirates-hitting-two-strike-approach\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">more individualized approach<\/a> to coaching in a spring training interview. Yet, nothing seemed to change. As a team, the Pirates\u2019 slash line is .234\/.305\/.352. They\u2019re dead last in the majors in slugging, and the other two figures are near the bottom as well.<\/p>\n<h3>&#8220;Stop Doing That&#8221;<\/h3>\n<p>One widely reported incident was revealing. On August 7, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/d\/davishe01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-08-28_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Henry Davis<\/a> crushed a two-run home run in a 7-0 victory over the Cincinnati Reds in Pittsburgh. After the game, he credited a pregame discussion with special advisor-cum-de facto bench coach <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/l\/lamonge01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-08-28_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Gene Lamont<\/a>. Lamont asked Davis how much he thinks about what the pitcher is going to throw while he\u2019s at the plate. Davis confessed that it was a big part of his approach. \u201cStop doing that,\u201d said the <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/2025\/05\/16\/pirates-former-manager-lamont\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">78-year-old baseball lifer<\/a>. \u201cPitches down the middle have been good to hit for a long time. Just try and get one of those.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Not that it\u2019s turned Davis into the next <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/r\/raleica01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-08-28_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cal Raleigh<\/a>, however. Since that talk with Lamont, he\u2019s gone 8-for-36, albeit with two home runs. But the incident demonstrates that there\u2019s an old-school approach that\u2019s been missing from the Pirates\u2019 \u201cprocesses.\u201d It\u2019s fair to ask why Davis apparently never heard anybody say to look for a pitch down the middle until his fifth year in the organization.<\/p>\n<h3>On Multi-Year Deals with Free Agents<\/h3>\n<p>Cherington said he\u2019s made multi-year offers to free agents on behalf of the Pirates and has been turned down. That\u2019s not new information. What\u2019s new is that these offers were made to position players, not pitchers, and he hasn\u2019t \u201cmade a lot of them.\u201d He mentioned there\u2019s \u201csome portion of the free agent pool\u201d that he\u2019s \u201cnot going to spend as much time on,\u201d presumably the Juan Sotos of the world.<\/p>\n<p>Cherington continued, \u201cAside from dollars and term, winning is going to be the first thing you hear up on the list of priorities\u201d of free agents. This contradicts my long-held belief that this breed of mercenary ballplayers would play on Jupiter if the dollars were there. I\u2019m not privy to these negotiations and am unlikely to ever be invited to sit in on one. After all, Cherington didn\u2019t say whether he read Last Word On Sports as much as he reads MLB Trade Rumors. Thus, I\u2019ll take his word for it that winning is No. 1 with free agents.<\/p>\n<h3>The Conundrum, and Other Multi-Syllabic Words<\/h3>\n<p>This puts Cherington and the Pirates in quite a conundrum. They can\u2019t sign a premier hitter to a multi-year deal unless they win, but they can\u2019t win without better hitters. It makes development, which they haven\u2019t been good at, all the more important.<\/p>\n<p>One 2025 free agent who I thought should have been a slam dunk for the Pirates was outfielder <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/players\/k\/keplema01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&amp;utm_source=lastwordonsports.com&amp;utm_campaign=2025-08-28_br\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Max Kepler<\/a>. Kepler didn\u2019t have a great 2024 season. However, the 11-year veteran has hit at least 19 home runs in a season five times. He had his best season in 2019, when he hit 36 homers and drove in 90 runs for the Minnesota Twins. Minnesota\u2019s bench coach that season was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baseball-reference.com\/managers\/sheltde99.shtml\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Derek Shelton<\/a>, who began this season as the Pirates manager. I thought Cherington could have sold Kepler, a left-handed batter, on PNC Park\u2019s short right field and a reunion with Shelton.<\/p>\n<p>Alas, Kepler <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/2024\/12\/19\/kepler-signs-phillies-one-year\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">signed a one-year deal<\/a> with the Philadelphia Phillies, where he\u2019s reportedly <a href=\"https:\/\/lastwordonsports.com\/baseball\/2025\/06\/27\/phillies-kepler-trade-mlb\/\" target=\"_blank\" target=\"_self\">unhappy<\/a> about his platoon status. Of course, a .216\/.299\/.375 slash line will relegate a guy to a lesser role. I don\u2019t know whether the Pirates pursued Kepler, and in hindsight, it probably wouldn\u2019t have worked out anyway. But he wasn\u2019t expensive, and it\u2019s an example of low-hanging fruit that never got picked, for one reason or another.<\/p>\n<h3>The Last Word<\/h3>\n<p>Whether Pirates owner Bob Nutting brings Cherington back for 2026 will be interesting to see. Nutting may be impatient with the lack of results and more attuned to fan disenchantment than he\u2019s been in the past. On the other hand, Cherington speaks confidently and persuasively of his plans for the organization, as indicated in the interview, and this is what Nutting hears every day. We await Nutting\u2019s next move \u2013 or lack thereof.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Main Photo Credit: Charles LeClaire-USA TODAY Sports<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pittsburgh Pirates general manager Ben Cherington recently granted a brief but wide-ranging interview to the MLB Trade Rumors podcast. Too often in his dealings with the Pittsburgh media, it seems as though he\u2019s trying to break former Pirates manager Jim Tracy\u2019s unofficial major league record for using the most words to say the least. 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